Originally posted by P, that Dudeim lost 😆 😆 😆
what are u talking about? what tribe? brother HH are u okay?i was asking when did "a piece of strange" dropped?
im just asking out the albums that drops this 06 which 1 is the illest?
a piece of strange came out early this year, but it leaked like in november of 05'
Originally posted by -hh-
im lost 😆 😆 😆a piece of strange came out early this year, but it leaked like in november of 05'
sorry guy... im kinda drunk last night... im good now tho
so "a piece of strange" came out officially this year... i thought it dropped last year... anyway its cool
and i said "i know youd say something like that" because everybody be saying that scenario is buss' only good song and he fell off after that... which is false... buss got one of the or prolly the best club bangers discography ever... and most of them club joints are half-intelligent too...
its so cliche...
Originally posted by P, that Dudei never said Scenario was his best song. i just said he was great on that song.
sorry guy... im kinda drunk last night... im good now thoso "a piece of strange" came out officially this year... i thought it dropped last year... anyway its cool
and i said "i know youd say something like that" because everybody be saying that scenario is buss' only good song and he fell off after that... which is false... buss got one of the or prolly the best club bangers discography ever... and most of them club joints are half-intelligent too...
its so cliche...
Originally posted by P, that Dude
what integrity?
AC must be referring to "My name is", "Just Dont give a FucH", and I never meant to give you mushrooms girl, never meant to bring to you my world, blah blahlaha, ... my fault, my fault.
(Not "cleanin out my closet", "Sing for the Moment", or "til I collapse"😉
Precisely, the album when he was good. Not the ones where he was shit and catering to every 13 year old so their parents would let him/her buy the record.
Even then, there are people who don't like The Slim Shady LP, but many people, across the board in hip hop, see it as a pioneering and innovative hip hop album. Everything after that is complete shit, save for the odd decent song on The Marshall Mathers LP, of which there were about two.
Of course I don't expect you to agree, you think Mockingbird was a very good, credible song.
-AC
Ehh, Mockingbird was Okay, I guess.
I just don't feel that he has "fallen off", so to speak.
Grown and diversified, maybe.
To clear up, I LOVED the Slim Shady LP when it came out, and I still do now.
I just think that he was an ill MC on it, and talked about drugs, violence, and funny stuff (not that its bad or anything) and that his later albums dealt more with American youth, politcs, culture, and his own journey/troubles in the recording industry.
That, to me anyway, made him relevant and interesting to listen to.
Just as much, if not more than, Infinite, and Slim Shady.
(But Encore was a slide backwards, I'll give you that, it was the worst of his 4, with Eminem Show being the best.)
Originally posted by sithsaber408
Grown and diversified, maybe.
Possibly the most ridiculous deduction I've ever read. He's not grown or diversified. Becoming a half singing, half dancing, gibberish talking pop artist doesn't mean you've become diverse, it means you've become shit.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
I just think that he was an ill MC on it, and talked about drugs, violence, and funny stuff (not that its bad or anything) and that his later albums dealt more with American youth, politcs, culture, and his own journey/troubles in the recording industry.
Exactly. He went from being unique and sounding unlike anybody before him or after him, to being someone that sounded just like everyone else, putting out bullshit songs like Mockingbird and Ass like That.
The very greatness of his first (not technically) album was that he DIDN'T take anything seriously. When he tried to, he became the joke, instead of making jokes. He become everything he ever hated, or said he hated. When he released The Slim Shady LP, he didn't expect to be accepted. When he was, he got greedy and started trying to appeal to kids, kids who thought they were smart.
He's never done a politically credible piece of work in his entire life. Making a song highlighting how bad Bush is (and he didn't even list any reasons, he just said "F*ck Bush"😉 doesn't count, because anyone and everyone did that.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
That, to me anyway, made him relevant and interesting to listen to.
Exactly, again. He cared about being relevant and being acceptable to the masses, when he didn't, he was entertaining.
Originally posted by sithsaber408
(But Encore was a slide backwards, I'll give you that, it was the worst of his 4, with Eminem Show being the best.)
The Eminem Show and Encore are pieces of garbage. Pop hop musical failed abortions. Those were the albums that he made to appeal to people who wished they were smart, who wished they could have intelligence. Anyone who realises that it wasn't his true intention can see that.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The Eminem Show and Encore are pieces of garbage. Pop hop musical failed abortions. Those were the albums that he made to appeal to people who wished they were smart, who wished they could have intelligence. Anyone who realises that it wasn't his true intention can see that.-AC
EDIT: im talkin about the eminem show, i agree he did sell out on encore
Originally posted by Phat J
im not taking a side in the argument, this is just my opinion. i dont really care what his true intentions were, it never really occurred to me that he was "selling out". he was still on par lyrically with his other albums, and he had a bigger presence on the mic than i felt he ever had before.EDIT: im talkin about the eminem show, i agree he did sell out on encore
Lyrically on par with what? Unless you are actually insane enough to believe the lyrics on that were anywhere close to the lyrics on The Slim Shady LP. You're entitled to think such, naturally, I just don't see how anyone can believe that.
Cliche, trite, boring lyrics that consisted of him either praising himself (because face it, by then, nobody credible was) or talking about things that every single human on Earth could "relate" to. This doesn't mean he's a touching lyricist, it means he's good at repackaging something already done a million times before, and selling it back to people who are stupid enough to like it.
Like Sing for the Moment, in which he sings about kids connecting with the music, big deal. Third major album in, I don't need to continually hear about Kim or his kid. Moreover, I certainly don't respect him for acting like he was still this beast of a battle rhymer, only to dodge Canibus and then diss him on The Eminem Show, then turn tail and run when he realised all the kids would never bother looking into who actually topped who there, and just assume he did the damage. Especially considering most of what he said to Canibus was said by LL Cool J previously (who arguably did better against Canibus than Eminem did.).
He was pushing a product he didn't believe in. Fair enough, it's his music and he doesn't owe it to anyone not to sell out (which he did long before Encore, he did that post-The Real Slim Shady), but then nobody owes it to him to keep supporting his crappy downward spiral.
Nothing he said on that album was anything other than him trying to convince himself that he was still one of the best, and nobody worth their salt fell for it. The beats on The Slim Shady LP were not poppy by his second, third and fourth major release standards. They were catchy in places, sure, but even the funnier songs were dark, cleverly constructed and even disturbing in places. He had the perfect mix of great music (because there is some good musical work on it that isn't touched on his other albums), great lyrics and great subjects to talk about.
The Marshall Mathers LP was him trying to be controversial because he knew he could raise eyebrows, The Eminem Show was him becoming a self-parody and nothing more than a vehicle for him to delude both himself and Dre also, into thinking that they were still the be all and end all of mainstream hip hop (Dre being more concerned about dissing Jermaine Dupri than realising he was above that) and as for Encore, well...no excuses. Total, utter garbage.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Lyrically on par with what? Unless you are actually insane enough to believe the lyrics on that were anywhere close to the lyrics on The Slim Shady LP. You're entitled to think such, naturally, I just don't see how anyone can believe that.Cliche, trite, boring lyrics that consisted of him either praising himself (because face it, by then, nobody credible [b]was
) or talking about things that every single human on Earth could "relate" to. This doesn't mean he's a touching lyricist, it means he's good at repackaging something already done a million times before, and selling it back to people who are stupid enough to like it.Like Sing for the Moment, in which he sings about kids connecting with the music, big deal. Third major album in, I don't need to continually hear about Kim or his kid. Moreover, I certainly don't respect him for acting like he was still this beast of a battle rhymer, only to dodge Canibus and then diss him on The Eminem Show, then turn tail and run when he realised all the kids would never bother looking into who actually topped who there, and just assume he did the damage. Especially considering most of what he said to Canibus was said by LL Cool J previously (who arguably did better against Canibus than Eminem did.).
He was pushing a product he didn't believe in. Fair enough, it's his music and he doesn't owe it to anyone not to sell out (which he did long before Encore, he did that post-The Real Slim Shady), but then nobody owes it to him to keep supporting his crappy downward spiral.
Nothing he said on that album was anything other than him trying to convince himself that he was still one of the best, and nobody worth their salt fell for it. The beats on The Slim Shady LP were not poppy by his second, third and fourth major release standards. They were catchy in places, sure, but even the funnier songs were dark, cleverly constructed and even disturbing in places. He had the perfect mix of great music (because there is some good musical work on it that isn't touched on his other albums), great lyrics and great subjects to talk about.
The Marshall Mathers LP was him trying to be controversial because he knew he could raise eyebrows, The Eminem Show was him becoming a self-parody and nothing more than a vehicle for him to delude both himself and Dre also, into thinking that they were still the be all and end all of mainstream hip hop (Dre being more concerned about dissing Jermaine Dupri than realising he was above that) and as for Encore, well...no excuses. Total, utter garbage.
-AC [/B]
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Originally posted by P, that Dude
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