Superman power limits?

Originally posted by -Pr-

superman also stated that even subconsciously, he always holds back.

You mean like Thor always says he holds back?

Originally posted by roughrider
You mean like Thor always says he holds back?

Superman doesn't always do it intentionally, though.

Plus, When have Orion, Grundy or Mongul ever matched his strength?

'Nuff said.

Yeah basically. His powers increase the longer he's exposed to a yellow sun though I'm wondering how then are the other kryptonians already as stronger as him after just a few months of exposure heck, Non even seems stronger than him.

um, in the latest issue of war of the supermen, doesn't supes take on zod, ursa, and non all at the same time? i mean, brushes non and ursa aside like they're nothing the whole fight. also, he seems to be winning against the three of them.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Superman doesn't always do it intentionally, though.

Plus, When have Orion, Grundy or Mongul ever matched his strength?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You're kidding right? About Orion I mean. Orion is unquestionably Superman's physical equal and in my opinion maybe even slightly stronger.

then you'd be wrong, bucko. uhuh

Orion physically stronger than Superman? I'd say his closer to Wonder Woman than Superman from what I've seen personally. At least when push comes to shove and Superman kicks it up a notch.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You're kidding right? About Orion I mean. Orion is unquestionably Superman's physical equal and in my opinion maybe even slightly stronger.

I disagree !

Originally posted by roughrider
Two important factors about his strength & endurance.

(1) Superman's greatest feats of strength have happened while he's been flying. This leads to the idea that he's using a different power source while performing such a feat. You'd think someone often described as a 'planet mover' would be virtually unmatched - but non-flying bricks like Darkseid (OK he can levitate), Mongul, Doomsday, Orion and Solomon Grundy have all matched - if not exceeded - his strength levels h2h on some occasions.

I agree with this btw - It would explain a lot of inconsistency.

Not that any authors have officially adopted it - but its almost a meta fictional rule .... Similar to following; 1.) those with super durability seem to be able to inexplicably boost their inertia, whenever they are hit, preventing them from accelerating in the opposite direction at huge velocities 2.) indirect shock waves are absorbed by charcters with super durability. 3.) Characters can dodge bullets if they are quicker than the person pulling the trigger - meta fictional rules that are prominent in comics, but aren't official.

Originally posted by -Pr-
then you'd be wrong, bucko. uhuh

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Orion physically stronger than Superman? I'd say his closer to Wonder Woman than Superman from what I've seen personally. At least when push comes to shove and Superman kicks it up a notch.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Orion physically stronger than Superman? I'd say his closer to Wonder Woman than Superman from what I've seen personally. At least when push comes to shove and Superman kicks it up a notch.

Orion not being stronger than Superman is resonable. Him being closer to Wonder Woman than Superman is asinine.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Orion not being stronger than Superman is resonable. Him being closer to Wonder Woman than Superman is asinine.

Very few character can match Superman in the Strength category. Superman just becomes as stronger as the character he is fighting most of the time.

Originally posted by kgkg
Very few character can match Superman in the Strength category. Superman just becomes as stronger as the character he is fighting most of the time.

The Only characters I would say for SURE are physically stronger (And I mean physically - not powerful). Are derivatives of himself; I.e. K.C., One Million (You know what I mean) and Prime. I wouldn't even put my money on team wreckers like Despro being stronger; definitely more powerful - but I don't think their stronger.

Originally posted by Cartesian Doubt
The Only characters I would say for SURE are physically stronger (And I mean physically - not powerful). Are derivatives of himself; I.e. K.C., One Million (You know what I mean) and Prime. I wouldn't even put my money on team wreckers like Despro being stronger; definitely more powerful - but I don't think their stronger.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Orion not being stronger than Superman is resonable. Him being closer to Wonder Woman than Superman is asinine.

Meh. If Superman was 100, I'd rank Wonder Woman at around 85 and Orion in the low to mid 90's.

He just hasn't impressed me as much as he has others it seems.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Seconded...or, thirded, rather.

👆

Where've you been you bastard?

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think Superman is slightly stronger than Orion not as big of a gap as between WW and Superman.

I agree. The gap between Superman and Orion is clearly smaller than the gap between Superman and Diana.

His somewhere near the middle of the gap between Superman and Wonder Woman in my opinion.

Originally posted by kgkg
Very few character can match Superman in the Strength category. Superman just becomes as stronger as the character he is fighting most of the time.