The One Ring: power & influences [merged]

Started by Captain REX16 pages

Why did Sauron hand out the Rings to Dwarves if he just stole them back after awhile?

I've noticed that Hobbits don't appear much in the history of Middle-Earth, though Bullroarer Took made the game of golf by smashing an orc's head into a rabbit hole...

He gave them out to the Dwarves to corrupt them, of course, only it didn't quite go as planned.

He then took them back when he could because if they weren't going to do anything more than make them greedy, there was little point letting them have that power.

Good point...

I take it while all of this was happening the Hobbits were happily sitting in their hobbit holes drinking tea, eating bread with jam, and smoking Old Toby.

Well, Hobbits didn't really exist when the Rings were made. Didn't even reach what would later be called The Shire until halfway through the third age.

Oh...I see.

Where do hobbits come from then? Dwarf-human crossbreed? 😛uke:

The One Ring Powers???????

The Power of the one ring is not known to any besides Sauron, others only guesed at how terrible it was. and another thing, if you had greater will and power than sauron you could wield the one ring and be its keeper.

true, but who in middle earth had a greater will and power than sauron. some were tempted to try but ultimitely they knew they did not have that power (gandalf).

tom bombadil had greater will and power, when he put the ring on nothing happend to him, even galadreil who is queen of the elves cannot claim she wasnt effected by its power.

well, i dont know if tom had the greater power, just a different kind of power. it says that even if he had the ring he could not stand forever against the dark lord. The power he had over the ring was that it had no power over him, he didnt care for power. and i think that is the only reason he didnt desire it, he didnt care.

very true, i think the only being to have power over the ring might be Morgoth, the first dark lord, or the king of Valinor, who created the elves and men and sank the island of Numenor when Ar-Pharazon sailed with a great navy to try and take the Valar by force.

Well of course they would have the power. They were Valar!!!

Sauron was supposedly the most powerful Maia to have existed. That would explain why others felt they did not have the power to wield it.

what i dnt get is.........

apparently in ROTK, pippin has to stay with gandalf becoz the orcs and saraman thinks he has the ring. but wouldnt those weird dark riders been sensing him instead??? 😕 soz i know its stupid but hey.......and merry gets to lead his own army,,, go merry... its ur birthday we gonna party like its ur birthday , we're gonna kill some orcs like its ur birthday and we dnt give a f*** coz its ur birthday. You'll find me in the Dancing Pony with gollum the bony. mama frodos got wat u need , its the ring , come give him a hug...............
SORRY ITS SO CRAP CAME OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD 🤣

i think im drunk 😮‍💨

yes sauron does THINK he has the ring and he will be sending dark riders fr him, that is why he leads pippin AWAY from aragorn and the rangers because agains all nazgul united under their lord not even the future king elessar can win

lmao, ur funny russ mathers, but that's okay ur right about poor pippin, he should be fightin too

From what I've seen they're going to make the fact that Sauron thinks Pippin has the ring a really big deal. Like, with Nazgul coming to Minas Tirith to get him, which is completely unrealistic. But yeah, Sauron knew that it was a hobbit, but he didn't know who the hobbit was who had the ring.

but that doesn't make any since... nazgul could since the ring, and pippin doesn't have it, so how are they going to make it such a big deal, i mean i know that saruman said to the orcs bring all the hobbits, and that was about it in towers, but i'm confused... please explain...

thanx i tried my best with the 50 Cent rip off. i understand now, what ur telling me... but still its quite confusing and something to tlk about

basically i think that Saurman thinks that frodo gave the ring to pippin, thats why hes suspecting him, but its a kindave stupid thing to go on if it cant be proved. which is why i started this topic in the 1st place 😕

weeeeee! i have ring sensers! yaaay! *runs around in a circle yelling "i'm gonna get you pippin!" *

Because Sauron saw Pippin in the Palantir, he thinks that he is the ringbearer who Saruman has forced to look in the Palantir for some reason I don't remember exactly. So Gandalf takes him to Minas Tirith and that's the end of it in the books, but I think that in the movie the Nazgul come. And of course that wouldn't really happen because a Nazgul wouldn't just show up in Minas Tirith, Gandalf would have to scare it away somehow, the Nazgul would know that Pippin doesn't have the ring. I hope that helps (and it correct)!