Magneto Vs. .....

Known Superhuman Powers: The Juggernaut possesses untold power, mystical in nature, which enhances his strength to an as yet unknown degree and makes him a seemingly irresistible, unstoppable being. Once he begins to walk in a certain direction, no obstacle or force on Earth has been observed to be able to stop him. Apparently, only he can stop himself. Some obstacles (many tons of rock, for example) or forces (such as plasma-discharge cannons) may slow his pace considerably, but nothing has yet stopped him permanently from advancing.

Besides giving him vast superhuman strength, the mystical energy of Cyttorak gives the Juggernaut >>>>>an extraordinary degree of resistance to all forms of injury.<<<<< The Juggernaut can shield himself even further from injury by mentally surrounding himself with a force field. Enveloped by his force field, the Juggernaut has survived the fiery explosion of a truck transporting a huge quantity of oil without any injury whatsoever.
The Juggernaut can survive indefinitely without food, water, or oxygen. He is sustained by his mystical energies alone.

And that is straight from the Marvel Handbook. Where is your link to the Marvel Handbook please? Yours must be outdated.

"The Juggernaut's body is completely invulnerable. His skin cannot be broken and he is incapable of feeling pain or sustaining any form of injury from any conventional physical attack,regardless of the amount of force or energy exerted against him. He can however be jarred or dazed and has some susceptibility to sensory attacks though he is affected considerably less than a normal human being and will recover completely almost as soon as the attack is over"....... in case you didn't catch that last part "AND WILL RECOVER COMPLETELY ALMOST AS SOON AS THE ATTACK IS OVER"....

So what happened when Onslaught backhanded him from Canada to New York? If he was INCAPABLE of feeling pain, why was he AFRAID? Does not make sense, does it. If he was incapable of feeling pain he would NEVER say so much as "ouch."

And apologies, but recovering ALMOST as SOON as the attack is over is NOT synonymous with RECOVERING INSTANTLY as you said.

nobody said it was ferrous based.

I said ***IF*** it is.

doesn't matter, he can't hurl his body directly, he cannot force him in a direction that he doesn't want to go. how many times do i have to say it.

Wrong. Juggernaut is not "stronger" than gravity. Again - do you know anything about physics?

And um, ONSLAUGHT sure sent Juggernaut in a direction he did not want to go, as did HULK. As did THOR.

How many times do I have to say it?

You are wrong.

true indeed, i totally agree.

Onslaught VS Juggernaut:

Issue and page # please? -- uncanny x-men #13. one of his first appearances.

Excellent picture, i never saw that....

Originally posted by JuggernautFan

disregard onslaught, can anybody state anywhere in juggernaut's history that he has been hurt by physical force. or not demonstrated that he couldn't stand toe-to-toe with anybody he has faced.
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Sure thing. Juggernaut gave gladiator a full punch to the midsection and gladiator didn't even blink (that in itself stopped juggernauts forward momentum). Then gladiator backhanded juggernaut to the next island. care to debate?
actually i do care to debate. that was a cartoon. the same gladiator was punched of screen by rogue, and knocked out of viewing range by cyclops optic blast. either or together, combined however you want to say it, couldn't even touch juggernaut. second, they re-did the cartoon and used juggernaut instead of character x (can't remember who it was in the comics) to lend gladiator credibility. they thought that character x wasn't popular enough so they re did it, and used juggernaut instead.

"besides nimrod whom simulated psionics"....no....he did not, he produced a neurodisruptor, effected the neurotransmitters in his brain, Im in my third year as a pre-med student, this has nothign to do with psionics, which are not real, but neurotransmitters " yes, he simulated psionics. he jammed his neural impulses. this revolves around the nervous system, and stopping brain function. it was simulated psionics.

"bio doesn't have to say it, he has already demonstrated it and stated it himself. why do you dispute facts???"
Yea but he also says he is unstoppable and that is a lie too...

he's never been stopped by physical force, except thor's godforce. none of the above attacks magneto can immitate.

and you don´t know magneto. by the way did you discover that he HAS telepathy, he only use it for protecting himself against thelepaths, and can also read mind at first base, i´m not saying he would stop jugg that way, i´m just saying that you don´t know magnus.

i do know magneto. want to talk about contradicting something. protecting himself from other telepaths, yet professor x shut down his mind. thus creating onslaught. ok, well it seems that would be false.

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"The Juggernaut's body is completely invulnerable. His skin cannot be broken and he is incapable of feeling pain or sustaining any form of injury from any conventional physical attack,regardless of the amount of force or energy exerted against him. He can however be jarred or dazed and has some susceptibility to sensory attacks though he is affected considerably less than a normal human being and will recover completely almost as soon as the attack is over"....... in case you didn't catch that last part "AND WILL RECOVER COMPLETELY ALMOST AS SOON AS THE ATTACK IS OVER"....
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So what happened when Onslaught backhanded him from Canada to New York? If he was INCAPABLE of feeling pain, why was he AFRAID? Does not make sense, does it. If he was incapable of feeling pain he would NEVER say so much as "ouch."

And apologies, but recovering ALMOST as SOON as the attack is over is NOT synonymous with RECOVERING INSTANTLY as you said.

ok so he heals almost as soon as the attacks over, he has a healing factor none the less. but he has demonstrated that he heals in consecutive panels. i'd call that damn near instantaneous. also, juggernaut usually doesn't say "ouch". he says mmmph sometimes or something along those lines, but it's just air being force out of his lungs.........

also i told you already politics, politics, politics. onslaught just happened to be bad writing for juggernaut. it wasn't true to his character at all. also the picture, is what i had been telling you about. the gem was never in his chest previous to this issue, and they were already in the mansion. the background completely changes, this battle did NOT happen in reality as one can plainly see by the picture. second, the first battle wasn't show. juggernaut crash lands, he SAYS onlsaught hit him, but the battle wasn't shown. he had a mental block put in place, and was blinking in and out of consciousness. 2 things that would support a theory that in the first battle psionics were used too. you see you people are still klinging to bad writing. if anything, wolverine killed magneto........... somebody who no matter how many times he hit him with his claws would do anything to his personna. magneto can tire, magneto wouldn't be able to stop him, magneto would fall. i also notice that nobody liked argueing with the what if i brought up. wonder why? magneto could win, i dunno how right off hand, but he certainly wouldn't win all the time.

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Issue and page # please? -- uncanny x-men #13. one of his first appearances.
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Oh, and Jean Grey had soooo strong powers back then...

strong enough to pick him completely from the ground, then he still advanced.

Wrong. Juggernaut is not "stronger" than gravity. Again - do you know anything about physics?

And um, ONSLAUGHT sure sent Juggernaut in a direction he did not want to go, as did HULK. As did THOR. they do not stop his forward momentum. they can hit him, such as thor did by surprise through the train wreckage juggernaut had plowed him with. but they can't stop him from moving in a direction he want's to go. only he can stop himself. geesh even marvel tells you this.

"Pretty much. It was in the FoxKids cartoon version of the M'Kraan crystal story. In the comics it was Firelord who was attacking the X-Men and got pitched into the ocean but I guess they didn't think Firelord was popular enough to use so they remade it so Juggernaut was who got tossed instead. " ----- there is the answer to your gladiator. it didn't even happen in comics. that was pathetic. that's like a low blow in boxing.....................................................

Originally posted by JuggernautFan

i do know magneto. want to talk about contradicting something. protecting himself from other telepaths, yet professor x shut down his mind. thus creating onslaught. ok, well it seems that would be false.

off course you don´t know him, you can read in everywhere that he can create mental barriers, in other places you can also read that is force field can protect him from thelepaths to, i can´t say this last part is true, i hope it is.

About xavier i didn´t read the onslaugh series, i know that he shut him down, but like i said magneto has to create a mental barrier, if he didn´t create he is vulnerable to xavier attacks.

One more thing someone told me here, that in order to xavier stop magneto once, he had to ask cyclops to blast magneto in the head. This probably means that xavier was trying to control him and failed.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Onslaught VS Juggernaut:

GREAT IMAGE darkcrawler, juggernaugh looks like a little girl crying.

Magneto needs to turn his attention to outerspace and start controlling the magnitisim of the universe. He is empowered by the very Earth and his body is a self generator. That makes him twice as deadly as his own power. Now if he were to use himself and the earth as a conduit to the vast energies of outerspace, mabey with a device like in the X-men movie, a magnetic cerebro, then we would see if The honorable Xavier would suddenly have a problem with someone else enhanceing their power like he does with that little cerebro.

No comments. (i didn´t read this story, anybody can explain what happen, better)

Originally posted by norrin radd

One more thing someone told me here, that in order to xavier stop magneto once, he had to ask cyclops to blast magneto in the head. This probably means that xavier was trying to control him and failed.

this also could be because of magneto´s helmet, i tough that this helmet thing about protection against the thelepats was only in the movie, but i´m probably wrong, i don´t know.

i have to agree with never, magnetos abilities depend on who´s writing him.

Now let's say for sake of argument, Magneto's powers don't work AT ALL on Juggernaut. let's just say, whether you belive it or not, that Magnus cannot control the iron in Juggernaut's blood stream, the metal his armor is made out of, or the magnetic field that surrounds him.

No problem. Juggernaut, regardless of his healing facotrs and invulnerabilit CAN feel pain. He's been hurt when Shatterstar cut his eyes out, he's been hurt when Deadpool poured molten lead on him. it might not stop him, but it's enough to distract him. All Magneto would have to do is wait until Juggernatu laughed really loud or yelled, anything that got his mout wide open. Then magneto uses his powers to fill Juggernaut's lungs and stomach with metal. Not only with this bother lugnut, it will give Magento something to control. So he can use the metal he put in the guy to toss him into space.

Or if you still don't belive that Magneto could toss him, then he coul;d scoop him up in metal dumptruck and toss the thing he's standing on into space.

As for other fights, I've always kinda wanted to see magneto fight Superman.

Originally posted by norrin radd
No comments. (i didn´t read this story, anybody can explain what happen, better)

X-Men discovered that Magneto had been masquerading as Xorn (originally thought Magneto was killed in Genosha). Magneto gave Phoenix a planetary-scale stroke. She was struggling to fight the effects. One or two panels later Wolverine cut off his head...right after Magneto switched the north and south poles, thus warping the very fabric of the space-time continuum.

Time then advanced 150 years into the future.

thanks

So Magnus could do all of that and yet you still belive he couldent beat juggernaut? And what hapend to jean? after magneto gave her a stroke did she die? and did he die forever after having his head cut off? i mean surgens can do wonders these days.

Maybe they could reveal that the magneto that got killed was actually a clone.
Or they might find that the military/SHIELD have been able to clone a new magneto as a living weapon in the weapon plus programme.

yea that would be pretty kool!

Or that they got the DNA of Xavier and Magneto, and genetically engineered a new version of onslaught.

Yea but isnt Onslaught evil?
And here is a new one how about
Magneto Vs. Nate Grey