Abomination vs. The Hulk

Abomination could beat any hero or villian on earth. That is why he faces the trials he does and why he admited he could not win. Hulk may be stronger but Abomination is strong enough.

Originally posted by Maelstrom
Abomination could beat any hero or villian on earth.

Not on your life. He cannot defeat Hulk (as HE said, and that is a quote. Not my words), Iron Man, Doctor Doom, Invisible Woman, Storm, Phoenix, Xavier, Magneto, Black Bolt, Moondragon - should I continue? I can, no problem.

he can hang with iron man...maybe even magneto....i wouldnt call it a closed shut case with those two....but the rest of those people would trash him

Wynndar, Abomination's only hope against Iron Man would be hand to hand, and Tony Starks is not that stupid. Remember Iron Man is Class 100 also, is airborne, with heat/cold/repulsor/cluster bombs - anything he can implement technologically the suit has.

He could melt The Abomination.

Magneto? Are you serious?

yea but the thing is that abomination's powers r very similar to the Hulk's...a anit-villain/foil to the Hulk...an anti hulk, who gets stronger with fear...he is also no idiot (Blonsky version)...he wouldnt try to just muscle iron man and magneto around....he is a pretty dark and nasty guy when he has to be...one of the darkest ones...Im not trying to say he would win...i was just being like u when u said batman would beat wolverine....everyone immediately boo'd batman and u stood up for him....im jus saying, dont sleep on abomination....i would honestly enjoy seeing him beat either iron or magneto

Originally posted by VENOMfan
well im pretty sure Juggy joined the Xmen so he is good. but Juggernuatfan probably can confirm or deny this rumor so i will wait for his response

yes current juggernaut who has at the very most half of juggernaut's true power has joined the x-men. his history has been changed, his power has been changed and his whole attitude has been changed. if you want to call that the juggernaut, then yes he has joined the x-men.

Originally posted by Wynndar
i think ur talkin bout J2

current juggernaut isn't J2. J2 isn't even in continuity. it was just a spin off storyline of juggernaut's dissappearance in main stream marvel. it was fun to watch J2 fight the hulk, but like i said it wasnt continuity.

so the Juggernaut with the x-men is the regular jugs?....has he gotten over his beef with charlie?

Originally posted by Wynndar
so the Juggernaut with the x-men is the regular jugs?....has he gotten over his beef with charlie?

well, current cain marko doesn't possess all the same powers the original juggernaut had. like i said they are at best, half of what they were. plus the writer disregards already written pasts, this cain has a different past. or altered anyway. juggernaut now play's ball all day with a fishboy named sammy, is fatally wounded by an explosion that the other x-men survive unharmed within arms reach of him. is bloodied up nearly ever fight, and picks on school children. literally. it's a waste of time to read about him. he doesn't even have his old armor. it is a mock gold and blue armor. it doesnt even protect him from telepathic assault. kinda pathetic. it's not even explained how he lost his power or anything.

When did juggernaught lose hisfull powers?

i was wondering about that....i bout an uncanny x-men a few months ago and he was on the coverholding nightcrawler in his hand....he wasnt actually in the issue...i havent been keeping up with that book much right now, but sounds like the writer isnt doing a great job if thats what he's done to Jugs...what about his age, do they factor that too?...Jugs isnt a young guy, but it sounds like they portray him as one now.

if it matters to anyone......

Notes: Juggernaut's superhuman power diminished during his stay in the Ultraverse, from All New Exiles Infinity through #5. Recently, his powers has diminished again as of Uncanny X-Men #410.

Abomination is one of the Hulk's villain but we can see him in the second Hulk movie

no way hes in the next hulk ty for the tip

IVE HEARD THOSE STATE ABOMINTION GROWS STRONGER WITH FEAR, THIS IS UN TRUE, HE HAS A BASE STRENGTH VASTLY SUPERIOR TO HULK AT BASE LEVEL, HOWVERE THE HU;K IS THE ONLY COMIC HERO( UN GOD LIKE) TO HAVE LIMITLESS STRENGTH, ARGU AT YOUR PERIL

I meant Abomination could beat anyone in a fist fight i guess. Not that he could take any beating from any kind.
In secret wars(the original) when Molecule Man dropped a mountain range on the hero's weighing billions of tons and Hulk caught it while some others hollowed out a cove for them to have room under it...
Hulk in his banner mind state stated that the only reason he could hold the mountain range was cause he had leverage. An impressive feat to tell but in essence he admitted he isn't "that strong". I admit it would be kool if he was...

most likley every form of hulk has whooped aboninations they include zen banner savage hulk maestro and many more

Modok said Abom's strength increases with fear..

I DONT KNOW ABOUT VARIOUS COMIC BOOK MISTAKES, IN EVERY BIO FOR ABOMINATION HE IS NOTED AS BEING STRONGER THAN HULK ON BASE LEVEL, YET UNABLE TO GROW STRONGER. OTHERWISE HED BE SUPERIOR TO HULK, NOT AN IDEAL ADVERSARY, STRONGER AT BASE LEVEL AND WHENEVER HE PANICS GET STRONGER STILL? HULK WOULD START TO LOSE AS SOON AS HE STARTED KICKING ABOMS ARSE, SOMETNG IN THE COMICS HE DOES REGULARLY, AND DOESNT END UP LOSING. MAYBE A COMIC PUT THAT IN ( MODOK) AS THEY WERE GONNA TRY SOMETHING I DONT KNO, HOWEVER THE STRONGER AS HE GETS MORE AFRAID JUST IS NOT A CHARACTERISTIC ASSOCIATED WITH ABOMINATION, IF IT WERE U WOULD TOTALLY DISSEMPOWER HULK AND STAN LEE DID NOT HAVE THAT IN MIND, IN AN INTERVIEW I WATCHED HE EVEN SAID THAT HULK WAS BASICALLY THE STRONGEST MARVEL CHARACTER END OF STORY

AND STRONGEST AS HE CAN REACH VASTLY SUPERIOR LEVELS OF STRENGTH TO ANY OTHER HERO, NOT WHAT HE STARTS OUT WITH