Wolverine VS Cyclops

"enemy of the state" is widely considered to be the most biased fanboy-penned story in years.

beast alone is more than a match for wolverine, as seen in their Astonishing scuffle.

Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
He got his candy ass handed to him in that issue you know. The only major casualty being northstar which was also crap shock-writing

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Northstar who can run at 99% the speed of light and has reflexes to match was stabbed by Wolverine. Yeh... that's not crap writing.

On that note.

Cyclops has precisely hit Northstar in the chest before.

I wouldn't call that example crap writing Both cyces beams and Northstar can move very fast.

And northstar was busying speedblitzing storm.

But still be able to precisely hit a blur right on without hitting storm is still a impressive feat.

When did they give Northstar that kind of speed? Holy Crap!
99% of the speed of light?
They really did that?

I'm not saying it was bad writing, but in a life or death battle when they were really trying to take wolverine down. Havoc missed him, and wolverine slashed havoc across the stomach. Wolverine stabbed Northstar in the chest, and took down beast the only way they beat him was because he was being held down by Jean's daughter. Cyclops hit wolverine and it didnt even hurt him that bad. And if ur going to say the Enemy of the State was a biased fan-boy penned story then I can say the same with the Cyclops stories you've been talking about. Either way wolverine took down havoc, beast, and northstar. There you have it Havoc is basically Cyclops with beams coming outta his hands.

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
I'm not saying it was bad writing, but in a life or death battle when they were really trying to take wolverine down. Havoc missed him, and wolverine slashed havoc across the stomach. Wolverine stabbed Northstar in the chest, and took down beast the only way they beat him was because he was being held down by Jean's daughter. Cyclops hit wolverine and it didnt even hurt him that bad. And if ur going to say the Enemy of the State was a biased fan-boy penned story then I can say the same with the Cyclops stories you've been talking about. Either way wolverine took down havoc, beast, and northstar. There you have it Havoc is basically Cyclops with beams coming outta his hands.

TESTIFY WOLVERINE2006!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by batdude123
What r u talking about? At least in the comics where Wolverine took down the house, everybody was throwing just about all they had at him. How is that bad writing? I'm objectively stating that everyone that Cyclops faced in that one post, was portrayed horribly. It was like the writer had no concept at all of what the X-Men were like!

The story was written by chris claremont

I think he knows how to portray the x-men he only wrote them for 16 years.

But if you feel you know how to write a better story go ahead and write one...

Originally posted by Black Adam
The story was written by chris claremont

I think he knows how to portray the x-men he only wrote them for 16 years.

But if you feel you know how to write a better story go ahead and write one...

Well, he's a good writer, but that story is complete BS. It was like he wanted to please Cyclops fans or something. If everybody in that mansion really wanted to take Cyclops down, they would've. And by the way, Colossus broke some ribs of Cyclops. How in the hell could Cyclops get up and fight everybody off, especially with broken ribs?! He really should have been on the ground holding his ribs for a long time.

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
I'm not saying it was bad writing, but in a life or death battle when they were really trying to take wolverine down. Havoc missed him, and wolverine slashed havoc across the stomach. Wolverine stabbed Northstar in the chest, and took down beast the only way they beat him was because he was being held down by Jean's daughter. Cyclops hit wolverine and it didnt even hurt him that bad. And if ur going to say the Enemy of the State was a biased fan-boy penned story then I can say the same with the Cyclops stories you've been talking about. Either way wolverine took down havoc, beast, and northstar. There you have it Havoc is basically Cyclops with beams coming outta his hands.

Havok is basically cyclops times 10 in terms of Power of his beams.

They also come out omnidirectional from all over his body. not just his hands. There is no way Havok should have missed if he was really trying to take down Wolverine

What I'm saying doesnt mean I could write comic books, just like Horrificus was saying that the Enemy of the State was fan-boy penned doesnt mean he was saying that he could write better comics. U say one thing is fanboy penned I say another thing is. But it does not mean I think I could write better comics. Just like previously posted about cannonball knocking someone really powerful out. That made no sense....wolverine did what he did and thats my sotry and I am sticking to it.

Originally posted by batdude123
Well, he's a good writer, but that story is complete BS. It was like he wanted to please Cyclops fans or something. If everybody in that mansion really wanted to take Cyclops down, they would've. And by the way, Colossus broke some ribs of Cyclops. How in the hell could Cyclops get up and fight everybody off, especially with broken ribs?! He really should have been on the ground holding his ribs for a long time.

and for the way he got up after the broken ribs
It's The same way the Punisher has gotten up after being shot in the chest.

enduring it , taking the pain in order to accomplish the goal and a mix of adrenaline

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
What I'm saying doesnt mean I could write comic books, just like Horrificus was saying that the Enemy of the State was fan-boy penned doesnt mean he was saying that he could write better comics. U say one thing is fanboy penned I say another thing is. But it does not mean I think I could write better comics. Just like previously posted about cannonball knocking someone really powerful out. That made no sense....wolverine did what he did and thats my sotry and I am sticking to it.

Who did Cannonball knocked out again ?

I dont know...I heard about it and forgot, hold on I'm going to try and find out.

I think it was Gladiator, it says cannonball defeated him.

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
I think it was Gladiator, it says cannonball defeated him.

I think he just redirected the energy of one of his punches and hit him right back with it.

I think Glads got right back up moments later. I really can't remember I saw the scan of it a few years back back but I think thats what happened.

Originally posted by Black Adam
I think he just redirected the energy of one of his punches and hit him right back with it.

I think Glads got right back up moments later. I really can't remember I saw the scan of it a few years back back but I think thats what happened.

exactly what happened.
So sad.

Ya but too me, i just couldnt believe that. Cannonball knocking out Gladiator, its pretty much the same as Cannonball knocking out Superman or The Sentry.

This is a thread that should be burned........................Cyclops cannot beat Wolverine in h2h at the end of the day but who cares..............his concussive force blasts can knock Wolverine miles back while knocking all the flash off his bones! Bam that outta spice it up a bit

Originally posted by Wolverine2006
Ya but too me, i just couldnt believe that. Cannonball knocking out Gladiator, its pretty much the same as Cannonball knocking out Superman or The Sentry.

But it really can't be counted as bad writing since it's just cannonball using his powers smart......

Originally posted by soleran30
This is a thread that should be burned........................Cyclops cannot beat Wolverine in h2h at the end of the day but who cares..............his concussive force blasts can knock Wolverine miles back while knocking all the flash off his bones! Bam that outta spice it up a bit

agreed.