Originally posted by Bagels
Where did he say that? Fans everywhere give that quote, but fans have a way of making things up too. Is there a link?
I don't know about a link, but this is true. They both are the same person. If you watch Episode 1, pay close attention to Palpy's scenes with Amidala. The way he talks and how the camera focuses on him gives him a very shady personality. Also in one of the last scenes in Episode 1, Mace says "But who was destroyed, the master, or the apprentice?" Right after Mace says this, the camera moves to reveal Palpatine's face.
Then again, in the OT, the Emperor's name is Emperor Palpatine (Darth Sidious), and he is Supreme Chancellor Palpatine in the movies thus far so it appears he is the same person based on his name.
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Originally posted by Sith Master X
Well in your opinion maybe it doesn't, but in mine it does. Think about it. Look at how many people have been all dazed and confused thinking Palpy and Sidious are two different people. It is understandable people would think this because you see Palpy and Sidious in scenes right next to eachother and the roles are completely opposite. Many questions have been raised about how Paly can interchange so quickly taking on both roles at the same time.In Episode 3, Palp will reveal himself as Sidious, and many people are going to be confused because they don't take the time to look deeper and read the spoilers like we do, let alone not everyone has taken in all the aspects of the OT.
See what Sidious is doing is something that is very mysterious and unique. He can disguise himself. Not explaining how he can do this after he reveals himself as both 2 people would be like the creators of Spider-Man not explaining how Peter Parker gets his powers. We know he can shoot webs, but how? Well some know that Sidious and Palpy can be both the same person, and some of want to know how he can manage this. Maybe it's Sith Magic perhaps. Who knows? I don't. So for me, I would like an explanation. It won't ruin the movie by any means whatsoever if one is not given, but it would be something to learn from and would give things plenty of clarification which makes it more sense.
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It has nothing to do with analyzing spoilers. It is simply a waste of time to go in-depth into explaining something which can be as simple as 'Hard to sense, the Dark Side is'. Why look for some weird magic explanation? He just pulled it off and the power of the Dark Side meant that no-one sensed it.
You do not need every single thing spelled out for you, especially when pushed for time.
I saw Rick mention they are the same people in an Empire magazine interview two months before TPM came out.
Palpatine needs has to lead the sith and the senate at the same time. But he must accomplish both these tasks himself, even though he can't possibly do all of that at the same time. A clone of himself would make sure he had personnal assurance over everything, sith and senate.
What was the point in hiding Sidious's face during the first two films if its absolutely certain one is the other. But there's still that mystery anyways. A clone would mean that they are the exact same but at the same not entirely the same. Thus worth hiding Sidious's face.
Then there's this all issue about an army of clones in Episode II, so me saying didn't just come out of the blue. While some say this is the most stupid thing they heard in their life, others are looking for a logical explanation to all this.
Sure this is probably not the real explanation, because this whole Palpy clone issue appears in Dark Empire an EU source (a sacriledge to Lucas's definite vision and considered fake star wars for some thus they're completly refusing it without much thought.) Plus there's this one and the same issue.
But if Palpy isn't a cone, I'm pretty sure someone else is.
Originally posted by Sith Master X
Yeah I also am hoping we get to find out how Palpy disguised himself. One scene he is Sidious speaking with Dooku, and the next two, he's paply looking off at the beginning of the clone wars. Hopefully this is explained in the 3rd Episode and I hope it's a good reason as well.SMX
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Glad you agree with me I think. I was scenes you were refering to, on my argument above until I realised they're not happening at the same time. Dooku comes back from Geonosis immediately, and UPON arrival speaks to Sidious. Then there's the Mace, Yoda and Obi Wan scene. The jedi couldnt have come back so quickly (Obi Wan's injury looks healed and even if it doesen't, I think he'd be getting some medical attention first before appearing. Then there's Palpy over looking the army, happening at the same time as the previous scene most probably.
Originally posted by Sith Master X
Yeah I also am hoping we get to find out how Palpy disguised himself. One scene he is Sidious speaking with Dooku, and the next two, he's paply looking off at the beginning of the clone wars. Hopefully this is explained in the 3rd Episode and I hope it's a good reason as well.SMX
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Glad you agree with me I think. I was ging to use the scenes you were refering to, on my argument above until I realised they're not happening at the same time. Dooku comes back from Geonosis immediately, and UPON arrival speaks to Sidious. Then there's the Mace, Yoda and Obi Wan scene. The jedi couldnt have come back so quickly (Obi Wan's injury looks healed and even if it doesen't, I think he'd be getting some medical attention first before appearing. Then there's Palpy over looking the army, happening at the same time as the previous scene most probably.
Originally posted by Sith Master X
Then again, in the OT, the Emperor's name is Emperor Palpatine (Darth Sidious), and he is Supreme Chancellor Palpatine in the movies thus far so it appears he is the same person based on his name.
In the OT, the Emperor is not named. He is simply called "the Emperor."