Magneto VS Thor

Originally posted by Soljer
His range of abilities? Mjolnir is plot device incarnate. The friggin thing's like a lantern ring - don't compare the two's 'range of abilities.'

oh gimme a break...Mjolnir is a glorified nail hammer and Thor doesn't use it much more than an extension of his fists

perhaps if Thor uses Mjolnir to its full capabilities this might be a different outcome...but he doesn't.

How often does Magneto use his full range of abilities? You're basically arguing yourself in Magneto's body Vs Thor with PIS/CIS applied.

Originally posted by Validus
How often does Magneto use his full range of abilities? You're basically arguing yourself in Magneto's body Vs Thor with PIS/CIS applied.

Magneto is pretty almost always portrayed as VERY INTELLIGENT..and uses his powers in very creative ways (ie bloodrip, adamantium rip, tech control, forcefield, emp, on and on)

Thor is pretty almost always portrayed as a brutish meathead running into battle without a thought and swinging his 'mighty' mjolnir as if it were a cavemen's club.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Magneto is pretty almost always portrayed as VERY INTELLIGENT..and uses his powers in very creative ways (ie bloodrip, adamantium rip, tech control, forcefield, emp, on and on)

Thor is pretty almost always portrayed as a brutish meathead running into battle without a thought and swinging his 'mighty' mjolnir as if it were a cavemen's club.

Originally posted by Validus
Good lord.

And it's refreshing to see that poll now reflects reality a little better...

Also, Thor has used Mjolnir in plenty of creative ways throughout his history. The reason he more often than not, goes to baseball bat route, is because it generally gets the job done. Either that or he's being dumbed down in Avengers books.

Thor never runs into battle using his hammer as a simple mallet, unless he's fighting heroes, or when he's on the Avengers always holding back.

Go read a Thor comic, because Thor's feats range from stealing Loki's soul, to bending space and time to send Ymir, and Surtur away.
And, there is a hell of a lot more than that.

Hell, the time he fought Mags one-on-one, he knocked him down, and sucked away his force field, and Mags ran away like a girl.

Originally posted by Harry Fingerman
Oh, OK then.

It's a good thing Thor doesn't have the ability to recall his hammer at over lightspeed speeds, or anything (if Mags can even do that)...

Would these metal shrapnel objects be anything like bullets from a fighter jet?
Or, would they be better in your opinion?

Who cares how fast the hammer could fly to Thor.
It would take at least some moments for Thor to get his hammer back (for all comics show this and none show otherwise). Plus Thor has been cut and impaled by sharp weapons before. And magneto can impale him with metal that is sharper than any bullet and with more force than any bullet.

And if Thor survives long enough to get his hammer back, mags just gets rid of it again, or even have Thor beat himself to a bloody pulp with it. For in controlling metal, magneto's power is said to be limitless.

Originally posted by h1a8
Who cares how fast the hammer could fly to Thor.
It would take at least some moments for Thor to get his hammer back (for all comics show this and none show otherwise). Plus Thor has been cut and impaled by sharp weapons before. And magneto can impale him with metal that is sharper than any bullet and with more force than any bullet.

And if Thor survives long enough to get his hammer back, mags just gets rid of it again, or even have Thor beat himself to a bloody pulp with it. For in controlling metal, magneto's power is said to be limitless.

Except for when Thor drains Magneto's magnetism.

How, exactly, you drain magnetism is beyond me, but it's all good.

Originally posted by Soljer
Magneto actually processes sensory input at about fifteen times the speed of the normal human, regardless of his age.

Originally posted by Rewmac
Never seen him having reflexes and movement above human.

Respek thread. 😛.

Originally posted by h1a8
Who cares how fast the hammer could fly to Thor.
It would take at least some moments for Thor to get his hammer back (for all comics show this and none show otherwise). Plus Thor has been cut and impaled by sharp weapons before. And magneto can impale him with metal that is sharper than any bullet and with more force than any bullet.

And if Thor survives long enough to get his hammer back, mags just gets rid of it again, or even have Thor beat himself to a bloody pulp with it. For in controlling metal, magneto's power is said to be limitless.

But, he hasn't been cut by bullets (outside of pis Hudlin), which is what I was asking Bruce about.

Also, Thor has moved pretty fast before.
Here's Thor when he's actually pissed, and focused.
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor_354-10.jpg
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/Thor_354-11.jpg

Which, he can use to dodge, and attack.
And, before anyone says anything, the rules of the board, are that they are in bloodlust... so...

So, Magneto could lift a planet full of metal?

Also, I still fail to see Mags separating Thor of his hammer for any time, unless he throws it.
And even then, he certainly isn't getting it away too far, or even that far at all.

Originally posted by Soljer
Respek thread. 😛.

Originally posted by Rewmac
So he would be able to dodge the Mjolnir thrown at full speed? He is freaking Spider-Man now?

Have you seen me arguing for Magneto in this thread? Well, HELL NO!

Besides, fifteen times normal human reactions isn't even Spiderman level.

I was just correcting your mistake, friend.

Originally posted by Soljer
Have you seen me arguing for Magneto in this thread? Well, HELL NO!

Besides, fifteen times normal human reactions isn't even Spiderman level.

I was just correcting your mistake, friend.

Originally posted by Rewmac
That's exactly Spider-Man level. Classic Spidey at least. Hell no, he aight having that.

I thought he was forty times?

Regardless - 1450% is what the comics told us. So, no, I guess he isn't QUITE at fifteen times, but fourteen and a half is close enough, 😛.

Originally posted by Soljer
I thought he was forty times?

Regardless - 1450% is what the comics told us. So, no, I guess he isn't QUITE at fifteen times, but fourteen and a half is close enough, 😛.

Originally posted by Rewmac
How come he Cyclops is faster than him?

I'd have to know which instance(s) in particular you're talking about.

But, regardless, I'm talking about his REACTION speed. The speed with which he processes sensory input, and thinks of a response.

Not necessarily body speed. As far as how fast he can move his BODY - he's probably athlete at best. But, as far as how fast he perceives and thinks - he's fifteen times human.

Originally posted by Soljer
I'd have to know which instance(s) in particular you're talking about.

But, regardless, I'm talking about his REACTION speed. The speed with which he processes sensory input, and thinks of a response.

Not necessarily body speed. As far as how fast he can move his BODY - he's probably athlete at best. But, as far as how fast he perceives and thinks - he's fifteen times human.

Originally posted by Rewmac
I get that. But you said that to his reflexes. I hope you know what a reflex is.

Im aware of what I said, thanks. Some people believe it has to do with the processing and reflexive reaction, others don't.

I, personally, believe that 1450% only applies to his cognition. Others may not agree, and they have reason not to.

Regardless of which you believe, the comics definitely support their view a lot more than yours...