War hulk was a horseman for apocalypse. fitted with celestial tech, that harnessed power from the "heroes reborn" universe created by franklin richards and the main stream marvel universe which is what you read about all the time. he had 2 universe's worth of energy coursing about him, and apocalypse knew this so he created war to battle celestials. who are extremely powerful beings.
Originally posted by Never
Mindless Hulk is the one that waltzed through the entire - ENTIRE - Avengers such that Dr. Strange had no choice but to teleport him to another dimension.
Wrong. It was a good fight, and Thor had to give his best shots, but he still managed to kick ass. It ended with Hulk being knocked down and trying to use his statue as a weapon, which didn't work. Then dr. Strange arrived.
Don't believe me ? Read the comic.
Originally posted by Never
Juggernautfan, you are incorrect period about Mindless Hulk...as usual.
MINDLESS Hulk was the one that punched the hole in Onslaught's armor when the entire combined might of earth's heroes could not doink it.
Wrong. Again. First of all, it was not the "combined might of earth's heroes". Where was Spider-Man ? DD ? Where were the Canadian heroes ? The British ? The Russian (yes, they exist) ? Please, I beg you, don't make me sum up all the heroes who weren't there, because it will be a very long list ! Just the X-Men, Avengers and the Fantastic Four, and a few others, such as Cable and so.
The "combined might of earth's heroes" is much much more than these guys, don't care how impressive they are.
Second, the Hulk did NOT punch a hole in Onslaught's armour all by himself. He had serious help from Jean Grey, who turned him with her telepatic powers into mindless Hulk (so that he would become strong and mad enough to take on Onslaught BEFORE getting killed by him !!). If she did not help him, he could have ended dead...
Last but not least, Onslaught wanted that somebody cracked his armor, so that he could evolve further. So you could say that Onslaught helped the Hulk.
Don't believe me ? Read the comic.
Originally posted by who?-kid
Wrong. It was a good fight, and Thor had to give his best shots, but he still managed to kick ass. It ended with Hulk being knocked down and trying to use his statue as a weapon, which didn't work. Then dr. Strange arrived.Don't believe me ? Read the comic.
Clearly you enjoy my boot being lodged in your ass considering that is the outcome of each and EVERY time you call yourself "calling me out." Thor did not kick SHIT considering he THREW Mjolnir at Hulk after Hulk picked up the ADAMANTIUM STATUE. The hammer HIT the statue causing the ringing sensation.
LoL, first you say "he still managed to kick his ass" and attempt to substantiate that GROSS exaggeration by saying "Hulk was knocked down." Exactly what species of dumbass ARE you?
LoL, did this NOT occur AFTER Hulk snuffed Iron Man's Iron Fist, BACKHANDED Power Man through 6-8 buildings, CLAPPED OUT The Human Torch's flame, DOINKED Vision on the top of his head sending him tens of feet deep into the earth, and knocked OUT Starfox - all of which you so CONSPICUOUSLY forgot to mention?
Dumbass.
Originally posted by who?-kid
Wrong. Again. First of all, it was not the "combined might of earth's heroes".
Doo be doo be doo...LoL
"The Avengers...The Fantastic Four...and everyone ELSE we could find. We're EARTH'S LAST LINE OF DEFENSE, people."
The combined. Might. Of. Earth's. Heroes.
Who gives a hoot if Jean Grey turned Savage Hulk into MINDLESS HULK? Did she FURTHER AUGMENT his power? NO. Hulk did it ALL BY HIS LONESOME.
LoL @ Onslaught helped Hulk crack his armor. Clearly you failed 3rd grade reading comprehension.
Twice.
Lol even further @ "read the comic." Purchased and read this what, 8 years ago?
Go e-bay a damn clue.
Originally posted by JuggernautFan
but war hulk lifted the pyramid off the ground on his own power, then simply tossed it through the air. the hulk that "lifted" the mountain actually had it dropped on him then simply braced it on his back. who's to say that another part of the mountain wasn't touching and he was only lifting half that weight, or even 1/4 of it. it was simply on his back and he braced it. war hulk is stronger, he doesn't have to get mad to get stronger, he simply summons 2 UNIVERSES worth of energy. i would say that 2 universes dwarfs any mountain range. hell all of the mountain ranges.
You are simply pathetic. LoL, did you not read the comic wherein it clearly STATES that Hulk is the ONLY reason that the entire mountain range that DWARFED THE ANDES did not collapse on them?
He summons 2 universes worth of energy and can only TOSS a pyramid into the air that weighs but a fraction of 150 BILLION tons? If he had "2 universes worth of energy" he should be able to toss the damn thing to Pluto.
But he can only "toss it into the air." 🙄
Care to also provide us a DIRECT LINK to where it says War Hulk is the strongest?
You cannot, because you will not FIND one.
Please stick to Juggernaut; you know nothing about Hulk.
Mindless Hulk is basicially the incarnation of strength...he would wreck anyone, basically, and he is far stronger than WAR HULK, two dimesnoins of energy or not...and yes...Banner Hulk did lift 150-Billion Tons, his strength is equivalent to savage Hulk, he is stronger than professor and Grey Hulk, but inferior in strength to Mindless Hulk
Originally posted by Never
Mindless Hulk is the one that waltzed through the entire - ENTIRE - Avengers such that Dr. Strange had no choice but to teleport him to another dimension.
Waltzed huh ? So, if he “waltzed” through the entire Avengers, could you please be so kind to explain the picture below ? Do you call that “waltzing” ? Like I said, Thor kicked ass during that fight, but he had to give his best shots against a very angry Hulk.
You mentioned something about Starfox and Vision and so ? What about them ? Did I mention those guys ? Nope. Why bring them up ? I know they got their ass kicked by the Hulk, but they did NOT fight him. Starfox wanted to hypnotize him, and got knocked unconsciousness in return by the Hulk, and the only thing Vision did was putting his hand through the Hulk (which hurt the Hulk by the way). For some stupid reason, he decided to turn himself into diamond and stand still, how stupid can you get ?
But they did NOT fight him, not on a physical level. If they did, they could give our green friend serious trouble. But they did not. I don’t even want to mention the other Avengers, cause they sucked during that fight.
But all of this is not the point. The point is that you were claiming "that the Hulk “waltzed” through the entire Avengers (like they were nothing) and that dr. Strange had to save them" !! Your words, not mine.
It’s of course not like that, or at least, it's not as simple as you think it is : dr. Strange saved the Hulk from Thor (and the other Avengers who all came back for a rematch) who kicked the Hulk's green ass through the air, and who came after him. Waltzing my ass.
It’s a bird, it’s a plane, it’s the Hulk meeting Mjolnir 🙂.
Originally posted by Never
Who gives a hoot if Jean Grey turned Savage Hulk into MINDLESS HULK? Did she FURTHER AUGMENT his power? NO. Hulk did it ALL BY HIS LONESOME.
Well, I give a hoot 🙂.
The Hulk knew that he wouldn't stand a chance against Onslaught - that's a fact. Therefore he swallowed his pride and asked Jean Grey to make him extremely mad, so that he would be a lot stronger than he would normally be at the beginning of the fight. That's also a fact.
The ONLY reason he asked it, was because he realized Onslaught would kill him BEFORE he could get mad and strong enough. It (normally) takes some time for the Hulk in order to get really mad. But he realized he would not have enough time against someone as powerful as Onslaught, so he asked Jean Grey to help him. There's no shame in that (whatever gets the job done I suppose) but obviously you don't want to look any further than your own biased opinion.
So Hulk did it NOT ALL by his lonesome, he had serious help. Without her help, and this is very important, he could have been killed by Onslaught. And even with that help, he still ended UNDER Onslaught (his "final" punch cracked indeed his armor, but did not defeat Onslaught, quite the opposite).
Much to learn you have, young grasshopper.
Originally posted by Never
You are simply pathetic. LoL, did you not read the comic wherein it clearly STATES that Hulk is the ONLY reason that the entire mountain range that DWARFED THE ANDES did not collapse on them?He summons 2 universes worth of energy and can only TOSS a pyramid into the air that weighs but a fraction of 150 BILLION tons? If he had "2 universes worth of energy" he should be able to toss the damn thing to Pluto.
But he can only "toss it into the air." 🙄
Care to also provide us a DIRECT LINK to where it says War Hulk is the strongest?
You cannot, because you will not FIND one.
Please stick to Juggernaut; you know nothing about Hulk.
apparently you know nothing either. can you provide a link that say's that mindless hulk is more powerful than war? he tossed the pyramid as far as he needed to. he was trying to hit somebody with it. so it landed exactly where he wanted it to. which means he had control over it. a complete stone structure weighs quite a bit, and he didn't even break a sweat in doing so. hulk was the only thing that separtated the mountain from dropping on them, but that doesn't mean that other parts of the mountain wasn't touching. he might have had leverage from some other parts. war hulk didn't have to stop with that pyramid, he could have summoned more energy, he could have supported the mountian, he simply is the stronger version. maybe you should do a little more research yourself instead of being one of the all mighty "know it alls"
Originally posted by Irish Wolverine
He might've needed Hulk to crack the armor, but the point is that Hulk managed to do it, while everyone else couldn't.
but it was only because onslaught wanted it to happen. he used hulk as a pawn. if he wanted the kid down the street playing in the sand box to crack his armor then that would have been what happened. but he used hulk.........................
saying that Hulk was a pawn of onslought is a jump to conclusions...there is no concrete evidence of this...and about comparing War to the version of the Mindless Hulk, and then bringing up the secret wars mountain u just prove u dont know anything about the hulk, again....that was not mindless hulk that lifted the mountain, it was banner hulk...jean grey didnt make the hulk stronger, she changed the version he was in...mindless Hulk existed before jean turned off his intelligence...he could have asked her to make him Devil Hulk, or Guilt Hulk....but they could be more dangerous than onslought too...War is not the strongest version of the Hulk...he isnt even another version...he is just a improved version of professor or savage hulk