Well, I'm not an expert, but what I do know, is
- he has a lousy costume, it's really ridiculous
- he's quite pompous
- his real name is Franklin Hall, and he was a scientist who got his powers due to an explosion in some laboratory (surprise !!)
- he fought the Avengers a few times, the Thunderbolts and I think also the Fantastic Four.
Last but not least: people tend to underestimate him. When written right, he could give Magneto a serious run for his money !! I don't think Graviton could win from one of the most powerful mutants ever, but like I said, he has the potential to be a very serious threat. Remember the mountains that were dropped on the heroes in Secret Wars I ? Well, he could do the same thing without breaking a sweat. That's power, my friend.
Below is something a friend of mine found on an old forum (no idea where), and it will explain the powers of Graviton better than I could do:
"Graviton can mentally manipulate the particles of gravitational force for which he is named, increasing or decreasing the force of gravity on any person or object, or applying that force in more complex ways for flight, manipulation of objects and force fields.
He can sense the world around him through gravity, and effect even desolidified beings. He can use his powers over gravity to raise his own island in the sky just by thinking at it, and also grant limited power over gravity to anyone he wishes.
This allows his followers to fly and have gravitational armor like him. These powers are still at his command and he can revoke them with a thought.
In effect, he is one of the most powerful humans on Earth. He can even keep the effects of his power in motion while distracted or sleeping. Thanks to the gravitational field surrounding him he is almost immune to physical harm."
Don't forget that gravitation is, on cosmic level, the most important force in the universe, even more important than the electromagnetic force (which Magneto controls).
It's a pretty even match I think. I would go with Graviton because Gravity just seems like a more fundamental and powerful force. Suddenly increasing Magneto's density until he winds up a pile of organs and crushed bones.
Graviton can operate on a global scale, in one of the Thunderbolts' issues he was in the United States, used his powers to pick up a pebble somewhere in Europe, and deposited it in the back of a woman's head in Australia. Global operation, and fine tuned precision.
Although I think he is kind of a Magneto clone, having him use such a powerful force for wide effects like...force fields, energy bolts, flying, much like Magneto does, and the cape and armor getup.
Originally posted by ScarletSpider
It's a pretty even match I think. I would go with Graviton because Gravity just seems like a more fundamental and powerful force.
Yeah, that's also the reason why I think Graviton has a fair chance against Magneto. Gravity is the most important force in the entire universe.
Thom Yorke knew what he was singing in his beautiful song Fake Plastic Trees : Gravity always wins 😉.
I dont know where it is right now, but in the book "Science of the X-Men" it explains Magneto's powers, and basically states that at his peak, Magneto can control anything he wants, explained through a universal(or unified) force theory(there actually is a correct scientific name, but i cant remember, or seem to find the book), which, to an extent, includes gravity. If Magneto were to realize this potential(more like a good f*cking writer), and fine tune his power, there would be no stopping him. not with a plastic cell, not with rubber, not gravity, not heat, not cold, nothing would stop him.
Hmm...sounds interesting. They've really been ****ing up his character lately. Damn Chuck Austen, I don't see how he's even remotely that good of a writer. I'm just glad he's not writing the new Invaders series, but just doing a horrible job of introducing the characters, of course horrible describes most of his writing altogether. Anyone remember the She Lies With Angels story arc awhile back? Yeah, gag me with a spoon, fuggin' terrible.
Originally posted by ScarletSpider
It's a pretty even match I think. I would go with Graviton because Gravity just seems like a more fundamental and powerful force. Suddenly increasing Magneto's density until he winds up a pile of organs and crushed bones.
Couple of questions. What will stop Magneto from simply reversing the flow of his blood - instantly? Or giving him a "global scale stroke" - instantly (New X-Men #50)?
Has Graviton ever increased someone's density until they wound up a "pile of organs and crushed bones?" I know he once held down Thor.
Is picking up a pebble in Europe on par with unleashing a global electromagnetic pulse? Or reversing the Earth's magnetic poles?
And why do you think that gravity is a more fundamental force than magnetic fields?
I had forgotten about Magneto's control of blood because of the iron in it. Graviton never has increased someone's density that much, although he threatens all the time, but he is pretty much just an arrogant jerk with no real ambitions. Mag's has him in that department, he's been fighting his entire life for something, Graviton is just a middle aged guy with powers that he has no idea what to use them for.
Perhaps I brought the pebble up under a false impression, you had said he was limited to operating locally, and I guess I just had a different idea of what 'local' was, although with beings of this power, it should be a given that they're not restricted to closest zip code. Sorry.
Gravity and inertia are what keeps the universe and all the crap in it together, so big picture I would consider it more fundamental. Magnetism doesn't keep solar systems together. And that's pretty much all I remember from 9th grade science.
Gravity is THE most important force in the entire universe – I said that in this thread already twice. It’s also without any doubt the most long-ranged force. That’s the reason I believe Graviton has a good chance against Magneto, nothing more.
Like ScarletSpider said, gravity keeps solar systems together. The electromagnetic force works on a much smaller level: it causes (among other things) magnetic and electric effects, and keeps electrons floating around atoms and stuff like that.
Gravity, on the other hand, works on a insanely large scale: it keeps the millions of planets in the galaxies on their place (and at the same time, guides them around in more or less elliptical “paths”), and keeps the galaxies themselves floating around each other.
Without the gravity force all those planets, satellites and galaxies would just fly off (hm, without gravity there would be no planets and so, but you get the idea)… So he who controls gravity, is a force to be reckoned with !
It’s not Gravitons fault writers make him look like an idiot. He has the potential to be one of the biggest threats ever. But I admit that the way he uses his awesome power, is not the most clever way. Magneto is smarter than Graviton.
(I hope all this is comprehensible, it’s not easy explaining this complicated scientific stuff when you’re native language isn’t English.)
So I conclude: gravity is the most important force in the entire universe. This is a scientific fact, people.
1 The fight Magneto vs Graviton : I don’t say Graviton will win, but I just want to stress the fact that he certainly has the potential to win. But Magneto is smarter and has more experience.
2 The scientific stuff : There’s a difference between electric fields and magnetic fields, but to keep it simple, we’ll just stick to electromagnetic fields, cause it’s very difficult to explain.
Without the electromagnetic field(s), we’ll get roasted from cosmic radiation. The EMF surrounds our planet, and deflects radiation. Without the EMF you probably can forget your cell phone too. And your favorite pigeon, which visits your house every year, will not be returning this time, because without the electromagnetic field, it can not navigate.
I know that the electromagnetic force is one of the four fundamental forces in the universe, so I’m not making fun of it. What’s the point in making fun of a force of nature... ? Without electromagnetic fields there would be no life on Earth. No electricity either.
But without gravity, there would be no Earth to begin with.