Vader Vs. Dr. Doom

That really isn't proof. Scince when does being from a certain galaxy mean you can't access the Force?

yes there is proof. read The New Jedi Order series. then you'll learn all about how other beings from different galaxies cant access the Force.

Not only is doom overall better, but he can still pop boners with the best of em. :: Thrusting motions :: I'm pretty sure the effort would kill/cripple vader-tater.

Another way to counter that: Vader just Force lifts Doom so he cant move anywhere. Then he just gets on a shuttle, flies up to a Death Star, and blow up the planet Doom's on. All the while maintaining his Force lift.

wow, ive been gone for a day and a half, and havnt we astablished that vader has no chance here, i mean cmon, its frikin doom, warspawn i think yer the only vader fan left here...

dont forget me.... i've contributed a few arguements that have yet to be coutnered, such as the fact that doom cannot counter nor access the force.

this is dumb...doom has used a Gun that would have disintegrated Thor in a millisecond and shot the Thing with a gun firing 1,ooo megavolts...Doom's armor can contain more energy than a whole fleet or star destroyers (the power of Silver Surfer, Uatu the Watcher, the Beyonder) and people r questioning whether or not he can take vader? Vader possesses vast energies from the force but he doesnt even have enough power to fly, only float around or leap...not true flight, let alone the power to reach escape velocity

That pansy Luke ****ing Skywalker kicked Vader's ass. Give Doom a lightsaber and he will do the same.

Let's see. Doom is smarter, stronger, faster, more durable and has more weapons then Vader has. Lightsaber can't cut through everything. Remember what problems Qui-Gon had in Episode 1 with that door? Oh, and the lightsaber didn't get past from those energy doors in the same movie. Guess what would happen if Doom activates his personal force field? 🙂 Oh, yeah, and Doom can fly too. Vader can't.

Doom has faced omnipotential beings like Beyonder, Silver Surfer and Memphisto, and won most of them, Vader has faced a brat with lightsaber and couple of months of training and lose to him. Doom has tens of years of experience, and better weaponry then Luke had when he fought Vader. Go figure.

Nothing against Vader, I think he is the cooles movie villain ever, but he would certainly lose.

Originally posted by Wynndar
this is dumb...doom has used a Gun that would have disintegrated Thor in a millisecond and shot the Thing with a gun firing 1,ooo megavolts...Doom's armor can contain more energy than a whole fleet or star destroyers (the power of Silver Surfer, Uatu the Watcher, the Beyonder) and people r questioning whether or not he can take vader? Vader possesses vast energies from the force but he doesnt even have enough power to fly, only float around or leap...not true flight, let alone the power to reach escape velocity

flying is irrelevent... you do realize that you can have an endless supply of energy and still never be able to fly, right? All i'm saying is that vader can theoretically sap doom's life force instantly if he willed it so. there is no way of stopping that... also, about luke beating vader. Yeah, he did. Why? 1) Vader was holding back and 2) luke tapped into the dark side.

oh, i have another question... which vader are we talking about... pre- "accident" or post?

Remember what problems Qui-Gon had in Episode 1 with that door?

Qui-Gon was still cutting through the door. Just not instantaniously.
and yes, force fields do repel lightsaber blades, so you have me on that one.

but Vader can absorb any amount of energy, and the more energy you pump into him the more Force power he gets. He transfers harmful energy into Force energy, therefor if Doom does use his little gun thingies then he's just committing suicide.

Not if he punches him. No one brought up the fact that he can just pummel vader to shit. If the lightsaber is drawn, doom can just put up a force field.

easy way to keep Doom from gettin close to Vader: put up a Force wall.

I'm not going to underestimate Vader (If you see him coming, better step aside, a lot of men didn't, a lot of men died), but against Doom, who has faced (and beaten in most cases) so much more dangerous heroes/villains/mutants/creatures/entities...

I don't know. And Doom has another advantage: he's too smart for Vader. I'm pretty sure Doom would know everything about the force there is to know, and counter it.

Vader only has a good chance when he meets an unprepared Doom while doing the dishes.

How would Doom stop the Force though? The only way he'd be able to do that is to get a ysamilari (or howerver you spell it) and bring it with him. And even then it might not work, because some Jedi have found out a way to use the Force while even in a ysamilari bubble.

Kontraz

flying is irrelevent... you do realize that you can have an endless supply of energy and still never be able to fly, right? All i'm saying is that vader can theoretically sap doom's life force instantly if he willed it so. there is no way of stopping that... also, about luke beating vader. Yeah, he did. Why? 1) Vader was holding back and 2) luke tapped into the dark side.

WarSpawn

How would Doom stop the Force though? The only way he'd be able to do that is to get a ysamilari (or howerver you spell it) and bring it with him. And even then it might not work, because some Jedi have found out a way to use the Force while even in a ysamilari bubble.

Ovoid mind trick - switch minds and takes Vader's body. DOOM WINS. If Doom is forced choked and figures he can't break free and is going to die -Doom gets a new body, while Vader's mind goes bye bye.

not exactly. the Force helps block mind probes and such, which is why Jedi cant be mind tricked. Doom's ability to mind trick probably wouldnt help him.

It's not a trick, he is actually switching bodies with his victim.

Yup. He doesn't read your mind. He takes over your entire body and his mind operates your body hence "mind switch."