Vader Vs. Dr. Doom

Originally posted by h1a8
My argument is not that Vader would be fast to strike with the saber but rather he would be fast to defend against Doom's attack yet also be fast to use a force move from the get go.

I don't see a defense against a organ crush when the bell rings.

Yeah, if Doom decides to fire typical lasers at Vader repeatedly and not do something else upon seeing him parry shot after shot with a lightsaber or block them with his hand, then yeah, Vader will easily defend against anything Doom can throw at him.

I don't see Vader being that fast and instantaneous with his Force Crush/Grip when he uses it against Doom, who is faster than Vader easily. Not to mention Doom's armor, magic, willpower, and physical fortitude are all exceptionally high so in the unlikely scenario Vader is given enough time to start Force assaulting Doom, Doom can last long enough to jar Vader's focus or concentration.

And I don't see Vader having any defenses against the Bands of Cyttorak, being BFRed, or most of what Doom can throw at him.

Originally posted by h1a8
My argument is...

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yeah, if Doom decides to fire typical lasers at Vader repeatedly and not do something else upon seeing him parry shot after shot with a lightsaber or block them with his hand, then yeah, Vader will easily defend against anything Doom can throw at him.

I don't see Vader being that fast and instantaneous with his Force Crush/Grip when he uses it against Doom, who is faster than Vader easily. Not to mention Doom's armor, magic, willpower, and physical fortitude are all exceptionally high so in the unlikely scenario Vader is given enough time to start Force assaulting Doom, Doom can last long enough to jar Vader's focus or concentration.

And I don't see Vader having any defenses against the Bands of Cyttorak, being BFRed, or most of what Doom can throw at him.

Force Crush Grip stuff are instantaneous after the bell. Doom's attacks are not. Doom behind all that armor has organs of human durability.

It takes less than a second for Vader to crush a pillow soft human organ. No armor or shields can stop it.

Either both will be defeated the time the bell rings or Doom would be defeated alone. That is how I see it.

Originally posted by Blanket
a) always wrong
b) always full of ignorance of both characters and stuff you made up on the spot
c) always wrong

Not true!

Extreme words like "always" and "never" are almost always false or almost never true.

Originally posted by h1a8
Force Crush Grip stuff are instantaneous after the bell. Doom's attacks are not. Doom behind all that armor has organs of human durability.

It takes less than a second for Vader to crush a pillow soft human organ. No armor or shields can stop it.

Either both will be defeated the time the bell rings or Doom would be defeated alone. That is how I see it.

Yeah, they're instant except all those times they're not.

It takes Doom less than a second to short curcuit Vader's armor, leaving his asthmatic ass to die. I doubt Palpatine could beat Doom, much less Vader.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yeah, they're instant except all those times they're not.

It takes Doom less than a second to short curcuit Vader's armor, leaving his asthmatic ass to die. I doubt Palpatine could beat Doom, much less Vader.

You are thinking of the chokes. I'm referring to the bursting of internal organs and the crushing of entire ships done in an instant.

How is Doom going to short circuit anything when Vader can block electricity and other beams of energy (assuming Vader just sits there and watches)? Hell Vadar can still fight thru being electrocuted like nothing is happening.

Originally posted by h1a8
Not true!

Extreme words like "always" and "never" are [b]almost always false or almost never true. [/B]

Vader

Doom

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Yeah, they're instant except all those times they're not.

It takes Doom less than a second to short curcuit Vader's armor, leaving his asthmatic ass to die. I doubt Palpatine could beat Doom, much less Vader.

the witches of dathomir are able to make han's teeth explode. you bet your ass palpatine can do this, vader probably too. and logically, also grab him by the balls and pop them which will cause his body to go into shock, killing him.

Doom's magic shields protect him from Force TK applied that way.

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
thats where you are wrong, palpatine is a much, much, much, much more powerful force user than vader. him being able to mask his presence from yoda alone is a testament to his power.

the witches of dathomir are able to make han's teeth explode. you bet your ass palpatine can do this, vader probably too. and logically, also grab him by the balls and pop them which will cause his body to go into shock, killing him.

Originally posted by Mindset
Palpatine and Vader get raped by Doom.

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