D-Day

That was mostly because the USSR was not as industrialized as the states. They were farmers. And yet look at how they drove back the Germans from Stalingrad. Power is in numbers, something the US definately proves.

ha, bark and no bite?? if it wasn't for the russians, WWII would have ended differently! THEY asked for a battle at the western front, THEY stopped Germany in Stalingrad and payed heavily for it.
Afterwards they were a very strong nation till around end 70s, with their communistic ideas, then it went down cause communism only works in theory, men isn't made to share

doesn't matter where exactly they were, the mainpoint is that they forgot they were near Omaha beach, that's why it took hours for the americans to get off there

The geogrpahy of Omaha made it difficult. It was steeper than the others and more heavily fortified

And why they needed help.
If they had researched properly they wouldn't have lost nearly as much men.

that's a rather weak excuse you fished up there AE... it is known they missed that panzer division, and it is known that that was the reason it costed them lots of lives and lots of time

they picked the beaches cause they were easy to get the boats on AND to get off to the mainland!

This is interesting.
Sil> Firstly the Soviets were not involved in anyway on D-day, they were to busy trying to stop the German invasion.

Anyone who says that the US only helps France and that they are weak and stuff are ignorant. If it wern't for the French there wouldn't BE a US to bail them out. IMO we are repaying the huge debt we owe them for their aid in founding the US.

AE>I do not believe that the Panzers were "forgotten" In the best of my knowlage they were stopped by the paratroopers that were in Germany preparing for the invasion, I think that was their main objective. Prevent the Panzers from getting to the beaches.
Also you are a war too late when you said that the US became a power after WW2 it was really WW1. This is because of the high losses the european states suffered.

And just one more thing. WW1 caused WW2. It was the "War Guilt Clause" that caused the whole thing. 100% of the blame for WW1 was put on germany just because they lost a war that was everyones fault. Germany was forced to pay some huge amount of money and lose all their colonies and such. This threw them into a deppression and Hitler Brought them out of it with facism and started WW2.

It was also the fact that Germany's failing economy, having to repay so many countries because of reparations caused huge inflation in their country, and Germany was sinking into poverty.

Excuse me you are right, it was the British and Canadian divisions who helped the Americans after they couldn't make it off the beach.

in the end, it really doesn't matter. The beach was won. It could have been worse. We could have landed at the port of calais, which was heavily defended. In a way, we took the Germans by surpise

Yes, but the other beaches were also won, and much quicker, without so much trouble. SPR is propaganda if you ask me.

^I think that was researched and avioded on purpose, not just luck.

yes and no, if hitler didn't gave the order not to awake him, and if (forgot his name) did convince him that it was THE attack, he could have easily crushed them

Also the British being the geniuses that they are, made Hitler believe the real attack would take place at a different location. Calais I believe, I may be wrong, but it starts with a C. They had a card board air force made to throw the Germans off, so they would not be aware of the invasion there.

Yes D-day was planned out very well By everyone.

When you said Omaha was worse, It wasn't the only beach the americans landed on , I think it was Utah they landed on too. The Brits landed on Gold and something else and The Canadians landed on Sword.
I'm just going off the top of my head but i think that is correct.

Actually you aren't 😛

"When the seaborne units began to land about 6:30 AM on June 6, the British and Canadians on Gold, Juno, and Sword beaches overcame light opposition. So did the Americans at Utah. The American 1st Division at Omaha Beach, however, confronted the best of the German coast divisions, the 352nd, and was roughly handled."

http://search.eb.com/normandy/week2/invasion.html

In a way the Americans underestimated the Germans at Omaha.

It is spectacularly inappropriate to turn this thread into a political battle. I ask everyone have respect for the reason this thread was created and desist from that. Whatever the (highly academic) fatcts are, this is about commemorating a day when a lot of people died- yes, on btoh sides- and the seeds were created of what we recognise of modern day civilisation. This squabbling is rather disgraceful in face of that. If you want to make threads debating WWII political history, and who was right or wrong, feel free- please do not do it here.

As for movies... PLEASE tell me some of you have watched The Longest Day...

...but the only thing SPR got 'wrong' about the Omaha landings is that they were too short.

hey tpt, you disappoint me now man 😛 you gotta see Saving Private Ryan again 😛 sucky movie but they do say it 😉

I've watched The Longest Day. It was ll right, but parts of it were fake.

Getting back on topic, it was the combined effort of all countries, US, England, and Canada that won the battle.

Ush is right, I do feel gratitude to those who died.
I commemorate the day, but don't celebrate it.

Many people died, but I think it could have been prevented.

Has anyone been watching the ceremonies in Normandy today?

Originally posted by Agent Elrond
I've watched The Longest Day. It was ll right, but parts of it were fake.

Getting back on topic, it was the combined effort of all countries, US, England, and Canada that won the battle.

you forgot the USSR 😛

What the heck do you mean by 'fake'? Technically ALL of it is fake; if you mean wrong, more detail would be nice...

But it did show an 100% objective view of the events of D-Day, with all parts played by renowned actors of the correct countries.