A severe lack of appreciation!

I've just finished reading LOTR which I must admit I'd forgotten just how good it is (I last read it about 15 years ago)!

Anyway a collegue in his wisdom diced with death when he said it was nothing but a load of long drawn out boll*cks.
He had the audacity to suggest that the whole deal would have been much better if Gwaihir had just carried the ring, or Frodo with the ring, and just dropped them off at the mountain so that it could be destroyed instead of all the unnecessary pussyfooting around the Middle Earth! 😠

Some people just have no appreciation of good story!

He is right about the eagle thing mind 😄

yeah the eagle thing would be the best idea but wouldn't make much of a book lol

or a film.

i think the eagles werent up for it--too scared of saurons power.

*looks at discos and thor*

🙁 i hate people that diss something like lotr

haha imagine.. the film starts, Gandalf rides to get the eagles and they carry Frodo, thats like stuff for 10 minutes

Originally posted by eezy45
haha imagine.. the film starts, Gandalf rides to get the eagles and they carry Frodo, thats like stuff for 10 minutes

Hmm,
an often-discussed idea

But the eagles wouldn't have done that 🙂
Tolkien said so somewhere ^^... *goes to search quote*
Theyre too proud, they owed the Mortals nothing, they usually do not meddle in the affairs of the Eruchîn... and one of the best books in the world would never have been written...

😆 nice quote

well why did they interfere later on then
silly bugger

im tempted to say Birdbreains ;p

🙂

Originally posted by eezy45
nice quote

They did interfere later because they owed Gandalf something
He had healed Gwaihir from a poisoned wound plus Gwaihir was a friend of Radagast

I thought about that, when I read the book I was thinking of Tom Bombadil carrying the ring to Mount Doom and then the eagles- that would have been easier and faster-
But there would not have been a book or story, It would have been awfully boring

It's funny, whenever I read LOTR again, all that normally strikes me is "Geez, long stretches of this are really badly written..."

The Short Version of LotR:

Bilbo: Have this ring Frodo
Frodo: Cool
Gandalf: We must destroy the ring. Gwaihir, take Frodo to Mt. Doom, so he can destroy it.
Gwaihir: K. Come Frodo. To Mt. Doooom!
Sauron: Shit, I'm dead
The end

wow, that's dull

Nice stuff Agent Elrond. ✅ 😆

This thread/Eagle topic is tempting yours truly to post yet another long message/explanation.

But nevermind. 😛

post a semi-long message. Give us your 2 cents, actually, for u, it's like 16 cents

LOL! 😛

OK.

The Eagles are entities in their own rights, not taxis. 😄

The Eagles are Manwe's subjects, and as such cannot undertake the problems of Middle Earth directly. Like the Istari, they can help out when necessary, but they are not allowed to do all the work.

The Eagles, similar to Gandalf, are not people (or in this case birds) who intervene all the time. They are not legal citizens who would ally with Men.

First, the only reason the Eagles came to Morannon in the first place was because Gwaihir, Chief Eagle, owed Gandalf a favor. They were not planning to help win the war and tried to stay as neutral as possible, even though they did hope the side of light would be victorious. The Eagles wouldn't have been willing to play such a crucial role, since this was a war of Man, not a war of Middle-Earth vs. Mordor. They had rights as sentient citizens of Arda and would not just take Frodo all the way.

Secondly, that wouldn't help all that much. Even though the journey would be easier, the job wouldn't be. If the Eagles carried Frodo, the Men would not unite under Elessar. What about the great Uruk-hai hosts? What about the evil Men of the South and East? What about Sauron? If Frodo got to Mount Doom without affecting the rest of the world in any way, who cares if he gets the Ring in or not? Sauron might be destroyed, but his armies would destroy everything with nothing to stand in their way. Plus, no last stand of Men outside the Black Gate to distract Sauron while Frodo made his final decision. But, most importantly, NO SAM AND GOLLUM! If Frodo could just fly, no one would need to come with him except other Eagles (even good warriors can't fight very well on birds' backs). Sam was Frodo's voice of reason, without which he would succumb before he reached Mordor, and Gollum was the device to destroy the Ring, since his giddy dancing ended up doing the job just fine.

As Agent Elrond said, 16 cents. 😛

Originally posted by shadowy_blue
and Gollum was the device to destroy the Ring, since his giddy dancing ended up doing the job just fine.

😂 yup

lol