Iceman

Started by FieryBalrog24 pages

Originally posted by Wickerman
Yeah, but you're also a bit wrong. he does indeed realize what he's able to do (not fully, but close). Remember after Emma shows him his potential then leaves him he tries to convince her to teach him how she could make him do that.
So he IS aware of some of his power, but too much of a slacker probably.

~wickerman~

heh thats what I meant. He's aware that he has a lot of potential, but is lazy and an ass. He's really whining a lot these days, although I guess every woman he wants is somehow taken by Havok... so he has an excuse. 🙂

ok I found this on the web one day and i cant remember the name of the guy who wrote it, but i found the document i saved it on....here goes:

Bobby Drake could be, potentially, one of the most powerful mutants on the planet. Look at his power. People say "Ooh! He makes ice." Or now,"Ooh, he turns himself into ice!"

But lets step back. Basic physics says that there's no such thing as "cold", as a quantative energy form. Only degrees of heat. "Cold" is a relative term, requiring a difference between the observed target and the temperature of the observer. Example: I'm standing in my office, at a nice 73 degrees. The cabbie outside is standing on the street, shivering in 40 degrees. To me, he is cold. Where as if I were buried in snow at around 20 degrees, I'd consider him pretty warm.

Right then, we've established that there's no such energy form as "cold". So, Bobby doesn't generate cold to form his ice, and he doesn't generate the moisture himself (imagine how quickly he'd be dehydrated). Therefore, he forms his ice structures from the ambient moisture in the environment around him. To do this, he causes the moisture to freeze.

But how? We know he doesnt "project cold", so then he must absorb or dissipate the heat. By the laws of thermodynamics, energy is constant, it cannot be created or destroyed. However, let's go to another scientific principle. Heat is a measurement of the internal kinetic energy of an object. The more those atoms and molecules are buzzing around, the hotter it is.

What Bobby Drake does, as I see it, is project a field that inhibits the motion of those particles (herein referred to as Brownian Motion) thus dropping the temperature and freezing the moisture.

However, the amount of water vapor in any given area is not consistent with the large stunts Bobby regularly pulls off (re: ice slides, ice walls, etc). If he were to coalesce that much water vapor in one place and freeze it, the humidity all along the Easter Seaboard would drop dramatically, we'd have wildcat lightning storms all over the place, cats and dogs living together, it would be anarchy, you see my point.

So that extra frozen mass has to come from somewhere. Remember that water vapor is not the only thing in the air. You have a mixture of all sorts of gases. One of the most prominent of these is carbon dioxide. Compared to the other prominent gases in our atmosphere (nitrogen, the most common, and oxygen), carbon dioxide has a relatively high temparature (although still incredibly low) at which it becomes solid. It is my theory that the most part of Bobby's ice structures are composed of frozen carbon dioxide, or "dry ice". This would help explain why Manhattan isnt flooded every time his ice slides melt, since most of it sublimes back into gaseous carbon dioxide.

So what Bobby does is inhibit the Brownian Motion of objects. He can do this so quickly that there is no expansion of the targets water content, as was seen when he flash-froze Legion completely. Had he merely frozen all the moisture in Legions body, well.....put an unopened can of soda in the freezer sometime. Wait a few days. Watch the results. Legion would be a messy red chunk when he thawed.

Bobby is an icredibly powerful cryokinetic. But thats no the only extent to his powers. Since Mikhail's fiddling, he can transform his entire body into a water-based organism. In his form of homogenous ice, his thought processes go on, even though water is a MUCH less efficient conductor than neurons in the human brain. Basically, Bobby converts all the molecules of his body into water, and freezes and molds it as he moves. He has the capability to assume a completely liquid form ( as Emma Frost did when in control of his body) as well as the potential ability to "teleport" by zapping his consciousness through water vapor in the atmosphere, reforming at his desired location. In AoA, this was referred to as "moisture inversion." {also happened in X-men Forever}
And through all this, he retains the ability to resume human form. {ice form now}....... {theres more but it doesnt really matter}

anyone disagree with what i posted? or do u guys agree? and is there anything else about Iceman that we could discuss?

that is the best explanation i've heard/read so far. It makes sense....woow...he one powerful dude

thats what i though when i read it.....what does eveyone else think?

Bobby is EXTREMELY powerful....however he's a near-amateur with his powers. He STILL doesn't use them as effectively as he should. In RPG terms on a scale to a max of 100, Bobby is around Lv. 14.

He could be one of the most powerful mutants if he actually developed his powers.

That's a very good explanation. but as the others have said, he may have all that power and more. As long as he doesn't know how to harness it it's the same as not having it at all....

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
That's a very good explanation. but as the others have said, he may have all that power and more. As long as he doesn't know how to harness it it's the same as not having it at all....

~wickerman~

not really. Its confirmed he has that potential, which means someday someone is going to explore it in the comics.

I doubt we'll ever see Beast become massively powerful with huge potential, for example.

he can always have like a 20th mutation...and turns into a horse or sumtin ^__^

Originally posted by ayjay
he can always have like a 20th mutation...and turns into a horse or sumtin ^__^

but a really powerful horse. 💃

hahha...of course!...and he'll still have those custom spectacles he uses...

Originally posted by FieryBalrog
but a really powerful horse. 💃

Then he can go over to Wolverine and say "psst.....ever heard the expression hung like a horse?"

😎

And wolverine can have a seizure and finally die 💃

~wickerman~

lol.....finally....but how many mutations can they have? and what do u guys think about iceman's secondary mutation?

Originally posted by Blair Wind
lol.....finally....but how many mutations can they have? and what do u guys think about iceman's secondary mutation?

can he even be with a woman in his current state?

Originally posted by pr1983
can he even be with a woman in his current state?

Seeing as how he has trouble being with a woman in his normal state.....i don't see why this would be problematic 👇

~wickerman~

Originally posted by Wickerman
Seeing as how he has trouble being with a woman in his normal state.....i don't see why this would be problematic 👇

~wickerman~

😆

true, but seriously, if a woman took pity on him say, would he be physcially capable? or would he freeze her?

ummmm.....he's ice.....yea i think that would freeze her!!!! then again some gurls like that......add something hot....saaaay coffee.....and there u go

how cold is bobby's body temp now that he is permanent ice?.

ummmm ice? cold......really cold.