Originally posted by alic88
can u imagine rushing through so much??? i mean there r a million things tht need2b explained how on earth r they gonna do tht in 1 movie.. even 2.. no i would like 2know every bit of information on how john connor becomes the leader or whtever his destiny is
Rushing through so much would be the only way that we will ever see the war of the machines. Would you rather see their weak version of how he becomes a leader or would you rather see the war of the machines?
Originally posted by alic88
true.... but i wud atleast like some times spent on john connor becoming something...... u know try 2 build the character
Based on what they showed they couln't do with T3, I doubt we will get the war of the machines or a good story explaining how John became a leader with T4.
i agree that after terminator 3 i really dont care what happens!
im keepin my world of the terminator firmly placed on the first 2.
And after arnies performance in T3 i wouldnt really care if he returned or not. he did his job in 1 and 2 and lost it in 3.
Who would make a good terminator next? and would it matter seen as 4 would be set after judgement day would they be skinned or just the metal exoskeleton?
A 4th Terminator would be terrible. The Terminator films are supposed to be two beings (human or machine) sent back in time, one to kill John Conner in one way or another, the other to save him, one of which has to be Arnold. They can't make another without him. Plus, after the 3rd, it's only gonna be about the war, no individual Terminators traveling back in time.
NOOOO
No more terminator films!!!
I dont want to be put through the pain and misery again that i felt after T3. Unless James Cameron considers returning to do T4 (which i doubt a lot) is the only way i will ever try and consider believing T3 existed.
T1 & T2 are the some of the greatest films ever made. T3 is one of the worst and is only good for people who never saw the first 2.
All fans of T1 & T2 will agree.
Gaz
Originally posted by McBaneI really want to go along with you on this topic, however the last movie wasn’t really that bad, it was the best either. I really have been trying to put this issue to rest, but there is something that troubles me, how can they really put this movie totally to rest?
NOOOO
No more terminator films!!!
I dont want to be put through the pain and misery again that i felt after T3. Unless James Cameron considers returning to do T4 (which i doubt a lot) is the only way i will ever try and consider believing T3 existed.
T1 & T2 are the some of the greatest films ever made. T3 is one of the worst and is only good for people who never saw the first 2.
All fans of T1 & T2 will agree.
Gaz
We all know the first story, and how John Conner sent his own father back in time to protect his mother from being killed by the first terminator. Now you see, John already knows everything that leads up to judgment day, he knows that his father has to be sent in order for him to even exist and knowing perfectly well that his father would be killed.
Now we know that in the 2nd movie John himself programmed a terminator to be sent back to protect himself when he was a kid, and in that story he managed to everything that was tied to the first terminator including that the Terminator pretty much destroyed himself at the end. But there was something missing at the end of that movie and it really didn’t make any sense, and that was after they had destroyed everything then John should have disappeared, because if they would have changed the future then at that time, there would have been no reason for John to send his father to protect him, see the twist?
Now in the third movie we learned that John had a wife, and was killed by one of the terminators, and his wife was the one that reprogrammed a terminator to protect them from being killed, and making sure that they were in the right place at the right time when the machines took over the world.
I know that some of you are going to go crazy on this, but hear me out. In order for all of the movies to make sense and to end completely there has to be one more movie, John is already dead, and the humans have to win the war with the machines, there has to be the last battle, the battle of all battle that we have not seen so far. Because with out the war the three other movies are not totally complete.
Gosh, I wish I could explain it better, but I really can’t find the words. It is all about time travel and how it works. So that is why I feel there has to be a ending movie to finish it off completely.
Please help me explain this theory someone please.
Originally posted by rwoonacott
Now we know that in the 2nd movie John himself programmed a terminator to be sent back to protect himself when he was a kid, and in that story he managed to everything that was tied to the first terminator including that the Terminator pretty much destroyed himself at the end. But there was something missing at the end of that movie and it really didn’t make any sense, and that was after they had destroyed everything then John should have disappeared, because if they would have changed the future then at that time, there would have been no reason for John to send his father to protect him, see the twist?
That is quite a good point actually that i never considered but what im unhappy with is the way jonothan mostow had made the film. He made the terminator look like a laughing stock, and i felt that the terminatrix never even compared to the evil that Robert Patrick and Arnie put across in their baddy shoes.
Plus maybe it has the whole 'back to the future' style time placement. Where if something changes in the past it creates a parralel time placement. John Conner wouldnt have dissappeared as the time paralel he was in has changed. As in one of the deleted scenes of T2 it shows john conner with a son and his mother sarah conner in the future where judgement day never came.
Or maybe im just being silly and that was probably why the scene was deleted.
Reading your post has given me different views about the story but i feel T3 was still let down with how it was made. The Terminator was never supposed to be a comedian. sure there were parts in T2 where you got a laugh from what he does but it was done in a way where the Terminator was never supposed to be funny anyway. It was just where he was learning. It was parts in T3 where he puts the starglases on and when he went speak to the hand to the shop assistant. They're not right.
T3 was a big letdown but you have made a very good point!
Gaz
Right
Originally posted by McBaneI am glad you brought that up, I never could understand why they even found that remotely funny, to me I thought that was very stupid part of the movie and it was a slap to the face for Arnold.
It was parts in T3 where he puts the starglases on and when he went speak to the hand to the shop assistant. They're not right.T3 was a big letdown but you have made a very good point!
Gaz
I am also glad that you sort of got my point as hard as it was to explain it as I did. The whole time travel issue has a lot to do with that, I think they call that a paradox of some kind. Like in the movie “Frequency” Johns memory would have changed.