well...actually... Fire... about those powers
I think that egyptian god (forgot his name, was killed by his bro Seth), would be more mysterious and all to have the ability to return from the dead...
that girl from Captain Planet, y'know that weird save-the-enviroment cartoon series, had a ring with the power of love...
and walk on water... that I can imagine, together with the Milk Inc as themesong 😉
wow, it took me a bit to read all this. but first off, b/f i give you my opinion, i would like to say that all of you amaze me w/ your knowledge of history and philosophy.
I have to admit tho, that i don't agree w/ JC's claim...your digging too deep bud. To me revelations refers to the end times, not something that has already happened. One of its biggest points is Jesus' second coming...and although there are many different views of this (historic premillenialism, dispensational premillenialsim, ect.) i still find it to be a big focus of revelations, and even tho its one of the most confusing and prolly controversial books of the Bible, I think your definately pushing it when you link many separate verses to prove your point.
And if we're counting ppl who think Jesus is divine...you can count me in! 🙂
This is Rina's best friend here (she ambushed my computer so now I'm taking it back). She's been telling me all about this thread and I felt like adding my two cents. Firstly, JESUS IS DIVINE!!!! and I'm not just saying that because she told me to; Im saying it because I believe it.
I cant say that I believe revelation is a refelction of WW1. For starters, revelation is all about the future, and WWI is in the past. You cant take any part of revelation literally, because the entire book is basically written in the form of dreams, prophesies and symbolic... symbols. For instance, Jesus is frequently referred to as a guy with a double edged sword poking out of his mouth, and there are lots of references to twelve "lamp stands" which represent the twelve churches of israel. If you were to take this literally then you wouuld have a guy with a very sore mouth and lots of light in the room..... somehow I dont think that this is what God was trying to convey 😛
About the whole "people being marked" thing, theres something in Revelation that says that the people of God will refused to be marked, and that those who arent of God will have the mark of the Devil. What a lot of people believe about this is that the "mark" that the non-Christians will have will be some form of micro-chipping. I'll try to explain how it works... but remember that its just a theory, nothing's proven, although I think that its a pretty good theory.
When Jesus comes again, all the Christians and Children will be taken up to heaven, and those who are left on the earth will be people who dont believe in God. For anyone who becomes Christian AFTER the rapture, life is going to be very hard because the majority of people who are left are going to be very anti-Christian. After the rapture, the anti-Christ will come and he will come in the form of someone who appears to be a great leader. He will come into power and will seem like a wonderful person who no one will realise is really quite evil until it is too late. Kind of like Hitler, but not so loony and much more evil. This Anti-Christ guy will be the one to enforce the micro chipping and this is what is referred to in the bible as the mark of the devil. Anyone who has become christian after the rapture will refuse to get this "mark of the devil" and life will be exteremly hard for them. They will be persecuted and will find it hard to do even simple things such as buying food, because you will need the microchips to do this.
Anyway, thats just one theory of many, Im sure, but I just felt like sharing my view with you. I'm quite sure that WWI wasnt what revelation was referring to, but if you take a look at history, many of the signs that revelation gives are found all throughout history since forever. There have been wars, famines, droughts, natural disasters. I think the reason for this is because Jesus wants to keep us on our toes. He doesnt want us to go "Oh look, the signs that the rapture are starting, lets become hardcore Christians now." He wants us to always be prepared, because he is going to come when we least expect it.
This is what I believe about the book of Revelation.
I know that what is written in the Book of Revelation is all about the future -- Future, by the time it was wirtten. The time covered from the time after the Book was written up to the time of Jesus' coming is considered FUTURE. 😎
As you can see, the events recorded in the Book of Revelation are arranged in a random manner, and are not necessarily in chronological order... depending on how those VISIONS appeared to John.
The Book of Revelation merely shows what will happen to the church of Christ and to God's people after the time it was built in the first century.
The woman in the beast
...who sits in many waters and in seven hills...
The beast out of the earth...
The angel who shouts "Fallen, Fallen, Babylon the Great!"...
The 'wind' and the 'seal' of chapter seven...
The four angels holding the wind...
... and some of these things
were already fulfilled in the world by these times.
😎
alright, this is a bit off topic...but i'm gunna say it anyways 🙂 I personally don't believe that we are going to be taken up to heaven...i believe that if you read the bible carefully, you will find that Jesus is going to come down to us, and create a heaven on earth...so...i'm not so sure about the whole micro-chip thing...the theory is kinda cool, but the theory itself takes revelations quite literally, and being that its such a symbolic book, perhaps thats not really what the "mark" is at all...
Firstly, JESUS IS DIVINE!!!! and I'm not just saying that because she told me to; Im saying it because I believe it.then the statement should be that I BELIEVE JESUS IS DIVINE, otherwise I would say PROOVE IT
The book of revelation is very similare to other mythologies apocalypsies, it seems like it is a nice mixture of the best of those
Well, the funny thing about religious texts (from any religion) are that they’re SO vague, they can be taken to mean ANYTHING – and have been, by clever clergymen through the ages. Or take the prophecies of Nostradamus! One should think that divinities COULD be a little clearer, so wars wouldn’t start over how to interpret a verse in a book.
But since no one has ever been scientifically proven to be prophetic, no books contain any prophecies at all.