Fahrenheit 9/11

Started by JRatT1213 pages

I personally wont see the movie cuz Morrie is a lying liberal. He only shows one side of a story and never gives all the facts. Moore makes money of tragic events in America. How much money did he make from the Columbine shootings and 9/11?????

Someone keeps talking about the pictures Moores move is showiong of Iraq, and "how we all need to see these." I am assuming they are images of dead people and only dead people. You don't see any pictures of are doctors healing people and treating them for diseases that can easily be fixed. You don't see people like my cousin how are over there feeding people that have been starving for years. You dont see all the kids going to school with new books and new cloths.....you only see Moore and his version of war.....go Liberals you truly are great spinners of information.....

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He is just stirring up trouble and making money while doing so.

unlike some of you here, I met and talked to the guy when he was over here speaking at DU back in 2003. you can see bits and pieces of it on the bowling for columbine special features. he's a nice and genuine guy who obviously does things for a reason and because he really believes in what he's doing. he never claimed to be fair and frankly his targets deserve it. (now here's the part that's gonna get this thread closed for being "too political"😉. the film hinted at but didn't really point to the real scope of the issue. All terrorism points back to our friends and allies, the f*cking saudis. most of the hijackers were saudi. the bin laden's are saudi. they never disowned osama or stopped providing him with money. america however, is at saudi arabia's mercy due to foreign investments and oil. most of the info we got about iraq came from a lying Iranian double agent named Achmend Chalabi who was aiding Iran in luring the united states into another 'nam. it was the same strategy the united states used when they goaded the soviets into invading afghanistan (carter's defense secretary brzinski bragged that the mujahadin guerrillas were being trained six months before the soviets invaded afghanistan). the third interesting thing is the astonishing number of Iran-contra criminals who have become involved with the bush whitehouse, chiefly among them John Poindexter, Dick Cheney, and John Negraponte (only oliver north is thusfar,missing). the truth is that we have been led into a 1984 style perpetual war on terror faught collaboratively and in emnity among a group of islamic fundamentalists, Christian doomsday fanatics, wealth-addicted businessmen, and shadowy fascists in the highest levels of power. just like in the movie and the afformentioned novel, the war is not meant to be won by any side, fringe group, or faction. if Moore had explored this in more detail and came up with the concrete evidence of this that has to be there, he would have gone the way of the poor journalist who discovered the inslaw software scandal. and everything goes back to one pivitol point in history. the CIA coup that removed Prime Minister Mohammed Mosadeq of Iran and installed the Shah. this led to the triumph of wahabiism in the middle east and half a century of horrible, spilled blood.
flame, and though shalt be reported
thank you

read up on this yourself if you have doubts or don't believe me. this is a free country and you have that choice.

^Still doesn't mean that he isn't trying to make bank off his very bias views. Plus he is putting more fear in people by spreading conspiracy theories. Not necessarily something America needs.

What I don't get in Moore-haters arguments... If Moore is such a big liar, then why is he censored in so many states? If nothing he says is true, why aren't Americans allowed to hear it?

technically cause it influences voters in an election year... in other words, someone payed the commitee to say that 😉

Originally posted by BackFire
I really don't see why people have such a problem with him. He does what every film maker does. He has an opinion, makes a film to get that opinion across, and leave it up to the audience to judge for themselves if they want to agree or not.

Much of this "propoghanda" is just him giving his simple opinion on the topics portrayed in his film. His films are often thought provoking, whether you agree with them or not, and usually give solid reasons and points to back up his thesis.

I know it's fasionable to bash him, but his documenteries are interesting, to say the least, and they do raise good points, and are often very truthful.

Peeping into the boards for the first time and just wishes to agree with Backfire here.
I mean, what you take from a movie/film is what YOU take. Every movie maker is trying to convince you of something - whether that be that some character is an actual person or that a viewpoint of theirs is correct.
Michael Moore may be quite a bit of propoganda but if you're that easily led, someone is bound to lead you - not just Michael Moore.

the thing about Micheal Moore is that he is open about his partisanship (Sp?) He know that the movie is his opinion and doesn't try to pass it off as fact unlike the government who expect us to believe everything they say is fact.

Originally posted by Tptmanno1
My theater was packed too! It was awesome!

Vengance, Please enlighten my on why Micheal Moore is a racist. I see no evidence to support your claim.


well he hates whites man, his books are always called stupid white men, and he says that its white mans fault for everything bad that happens in his life. he's a kkk for blacks. and he goes on and on, on that kinda crap.

uh... Excuse me, but if you haven't noticed, Michael Moore IS white. He doesn't hate white men, that's ridiculous.

I agree with BackFire for once... Yes he has an opinion, yes he is voicing it very strongly, but he never said the film was non-partisan. You accuse him of being biased, as if it's a horrible crime, when he himself admits to it. Another thing is, there are so damn many CONSERVATIVE guys out there doing exactly the same thing, what's wrong with having one liberal doing it? Plus, Moore is funnier than all the conservative talk show hosts combined 😛

Originally posted by Vengeance
well he hates whites man, his books are always called stupid white men, and he says that its white mans fault for everything bad that happens in his life. he's a kkk for blacks. and he goes on and on, on that kinda crap.

My friend, I don't know how complete your grasp of the english language is but I can say surely that if your prose exhibits the intelligence of a monkey on crack.

Originally posted by Darth Revan
I could've sworn there were more people clapping than when I saw ROTK on opening day.

Well, why do you think it is that people stand up and clap for movies in the theater?

When an episode of 20/20 or Dateline you completely agreed with concludes, do you stand up in your living room and start applauding? What about watching ROTK on your couch when it was finally over?

Or in the simplest terms, would you stand up and applaud a movie if you were the only one in the theater? 😖hifty:

Does this movie really matter if you're a Republican or Democrat? I feel like seeing it and I'm a Republican.

Originally posted by Vengeance
well he hates whites man, his books are always called stupid white men, and he says that its white mans fault for everything bad that happens in his life. he's a kkk for blacks. and he goes on and on, on that kinda crap.

OK If you've ever read "Stupid White Men" You would know that he's making funn of all the white people who run the country. He's using white as a description not a label. Everyone who has any say in what goes on in our country is white! Its just how it is an Micheal Moore knows this. Calling him racist is just stupid.

I hope Bradbury sues Moore's.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/Movies/06/21/bradbury.fahrenheit.ap/index.html

Oh, I'm sorry! I forget! The media distorts the truth but not Moore. 🙄

He wont. Moore called him up and fixed it.

Originally posted by ScottsLover
Does this movie really matter if you're a Republican or Democrat? I feel like seeing it and I'm a Republican.

i think its a good movie for every american to see.. because the bottom line is youll see things you wouldnt here about otherwise.. im not saying you will like or dislike bush or that you should based on the movie.. btu still its a a movie that most all americans should see

Originally posted by Darth Revan
uh... Excuse me, but if you haven't noticed, Michael Moore IS white. He doesn't hate white men, that's ridiculous.

I agree with BackFire for once... Yes he has an opinion, yes he is voicing it very strongly, but he never said the film was non-partisan. You accuse him of being biased, as if it's a horrible crime, when he himself admits to it. Another thing is, there are so damn many CONSERVATIVE guys out there doing exactly the same thing, what's wrong with having one liberal doing it? Plus, Moore is funnier than all the conservative talk show hosts combined 😛


Damn u it doesn't mean you cant be racist if you the same race. geeze man. and any way i stand by it. if you say blacks are better then white which he basically says, then you sir are a racist, if he would say there as equaly bad O.K. but that wouldn't get him another mill to spend eating thousands of fat products.

Where?
Thats a rediculous claim. Just because a books is named "Stupid White Men, and other sorry excuses for the state of the nation" Does not make him a racist.

Originally posted by Tptmanno1
Where?
Thats a rediculous claim. Just because a books is named "Stupid White Men, and other sorry excuses for the state of the nation" Does not make him a racist.

k, back when i was in school we were read that and it always claims that anything that bad happened to him was a white mans fault, and he even goes to say that black men are infact better then the white becuase they have done nothing to hurt him and when they do it goes on the news. or some crap like that. so if thats not racist then w/e man you go dream your dream. but in my opionin grizzly adams is a racist, and a stupid one seeing that he is indeed a white man.