My mistake, (Marvel characters are weaker in cartoons too. Cartoon Hulk sucks.) Current JLA Superman and Batman vs. Ultimate Hulk and Spiderman. (you do read Ultimate Marvel, right?) Who do you think would win Draco?
Spidey vs Batman
Hulk vs. Superman
In my opinion, Ultimate Spiderman easily KO's Batman; Ultimate Hulk has a drastic size advantage over Superman, but he would still struggle against Superman's strength, speed, and flight. Spiderman would then assist Hulk in taking down Superman.
I don't agree with Spider-Man beating Batman. Batman's far too calculated to lose to Spider-Man. He's gone up against tougher opponents. Superman may or may not be weaker than the Hulk. It's debatable. However, the Hulk attacks one-dimensionally and has the intelligence of a person with Down-syndrome. Superman has the edge in superspeed, heat vision, freeze breath, etc. Eventually the Hulk would go down.
Did you forget Spider-sense? Spiderman could see any of Batman's attacks coming from a mile away! His superior strength, speed, and agilty, in coincidence with his precognition would name Spiderman the victor of this fight. Batman doesn't stand a chance. Spiderman would own all of Batman's enemies. What tougher opponents has Batman faced? (besides Superman, and the rest of the Justice League, everyone knows how he won.)
I understand that Superman could prevail against Hulk's one dimensional attack, but with Spiderman's agility and senses at his side, Superman's victory is indeed doubtful.
Hulk is very similar to DC's Doomsday; He has immense strength, superhuman speed, (though far inferior to Superman's), jumping ability,(though Hulk's is far greater,) and regeneration improving his invulnerability. Currently the Hulk (in the current comics) has a regeneration factor greater than any other Marvel hero, is invulnerable to intense heat or cold, has the highest level of durability a Marvel character can possess, cannot be killed permenantly, and becomes much stronger and more durable upon regeneration from after "death." (I suppose Hulk 'dying' would count as a loss.) Essentially Hulk has the same abilities as Doomsday, except for the fact that Hulk could become stronger. I cannot comprehend how Superman could fall to Doomsday, yet defeat Hulk (in a stupid crossover.)
Doomsday has two major differences from the Hulk:
First, Doomsday was a constantly evolving entity that adapted to Superman's and the other DC heroes. Doomsday gradually grew stronger, faster, smarter, and more powerful as each minute past. Doomsday at his best was stronger than Superman, almost as fast as the Flash, very intelligent and was powerful enough to go against the ENTIRE Green Lantern's corp and win. Wonder Woman, an army of Green Lanterns, and the entire Justice League could barely slow him down. I strongly doubt that the Hulk would be capable of any of these previously aforementioned feats.
Second, Doomsday had this 'immunization' ability which enabled him to adapt to a particular attack and/or energy type after he's been hit with it. Superman hits him with heat vision, ten minutes later he was immune to it.
The Hulk has unlimited potential for strength, superhuman speed (under 500 miles per hour) and a healing factor that makes Wolverine's look like a Band-Aid. But he's limited to these powers. Sheer strength alone won't be able topple the Man of Steel. With his multitude of powers, and the help of Batman's genius, The Hulk would fall.
And who's to say that Superman won't temporarily suspend his battle with the Hulk and knock out Spider-Man for Batman? Batman and Superman are used to working together. They've done it for decades. Spider-Man and the Hulk do not work well together. If anything the Hulk will grow tired with Spidey's trash talk and squash the web-slinger himself.
Or, if Superman fights Spiderman, Spidey wouldn't really be able to affect Superman at first, so he would have to use spider-sense to evade the bulk of Superman's attacks. Superman cannot use his superspeed in a fight, only when running, or moving around an opponents; his attacks and evasions aren't quite as fast. (obvious in the Doomsday battle.) If he could, he would defeat almost anyone. Hulk would dispose of Batman quickly; he's faster and much much stronger than him. Then the two would double-team Superman. Superman can withstand an attack (like in the Hulk crossover), but only if he sees it coming. I have deduced that Superman's powers are not muscular and purely physical like Hulk's (obvious by comparing physiques,) but rather energy based feats of his indomitable "will." If Superman was focused on taking down Spiderman, and Hulk suckerpunched him, it would do considerable damage. The Hulk and Spiderman would be a bit much for even Superman to handle.
Spider-Man under any circumstances cannot possibly "evade" any of Superman's attacks. Superman can use his superspeed in any manner he wishes. Heat vision from above, a superspeed (just under the speed of light) punch, freeze breath (try evading that), superbreath (can Spider-Man dodge hurricane-force winds?) The assumption that Superman can only uses his superspeed effectively for flying or moving around opponents is incorrect. Superman is capable of attacking, evading, and moving at superspeed. It's just that he rarely uses his powers this way. When he went up against Doomsday, Doomsday had already acquired superspeed and considerable fighting skills. So this evidence is a non-factor. Batman, the cheating bastard he is ,would probably stay in the shadows and try to analyze his opponents. One millisecond later, (that's how fast Superman is) Spider-Man is down, and Superman would refocus his attentions on the Hulk. Batman, the ingenious bastard he is, would provide Superman with as much distraction (i.e. tear gas, blinding flares, sonic weapons) and strategy as he can provide. The Hulk would be completely focused on Superman, so Batman is safe (probably eating a Snickers bar in one hand and lethargically shaking a pom-pom with the other). Eventually the Hulk would go down. And Superman b***hslaps Batman for not helping out.
Valid point, but let's assume that Hulk consistantly on Spiderman's side. Doomsday was as fast as flash? I have seen several frames, I didn't notice a drastic increase in speed. Hulk's skin is invulnerable to intense heat; he has been caught in a nuclear gamma bomb explosions on several occasions (a gamma bomb explosion is of far greater heat than superman's heat vision, or the sun for that matter.) Heat vision would likely do little more than annoy Hulk.
I doubt Hulk would allow Superman to leave his battle to assist batman. If Superman focused on defeating Spiderman, Hulk would likely sneak attack him, as he has an exellent battle cunning. If it became a melee of punches and brute force, Hulk would come out on top, and likely knock out Spiderman in the process.
If Superman could indeed knock out Spiderman, Hulk would more than likely fall to the two.
To my knowledge Superman hasn't attacked any of his major opponent's to date, at the speed at which he runs. (if he has, let me know.) If he hasn't it is safe to assume that he cannot. The Hulk has not demonstrated a maximum level of strength; therefore it is safe to assume he doesn't have a maximum. If a character has an ability, the writer will likely exhibit the power somewhere in the comic book series. Unless he has gotten a LOT faster, Superman can not run at or even close to the speed of light. The old Flash (the first one in the Justice League) couldn't run at the speed of light, or fully access the speedforce. He ran 128 miles per second. Superman struggled to keep up with him.
This is debatable, but Spiderman could use his traction (the same traction he uses to cling to walls,) to withstand the wind.
(Did you know Venom beat Superman in a crossover? Utter bullshit)
Superman has attacked numerous opponents at superspeed (latest to date, from the very confusing Azzarelo/Lee run, Wonder Woman and the weird bio-engineered cyborg.) Superman is capable of just under-lightspeed. He's traveled to the moon and back in under two minutes. The reason that Superman does not reach high speeds often is because of the atmospheric disturbances (not mention property damage) he would cause to the surrounding environment.
I doubt that Spider-Man can use his 'traction' powers to withstand the wind. Superman can blow (actually it isn't wind at all, it's a low-level form of telekinsis) 700 mile per hour winds. He can reduce a small town to rubble with his superbreath. Spidey has been knocked off his traction by far lesser attacks. And even if Spider does somehow does withstand the winds, that won't help him from the threat of oxygen deprivation and if Superman suddenly shifts gears into freeze breath.
(Yes I know Veno beat Superman in a crossover. Crossovers are all bull****. The companies have to balance their respective characters. Even if it means creating a impossible situation ( i.e. Lobo losing to Wolverine, Storm beating Wonder Woman)
I gotta go to bed. I respond to any posts you make tonight, the next day. Peace out.
Cosmic, you make some great points. Supes is no genius, but he is quite intelligent too. He could say Bruce go home, and I'll handle this one, knowing full well Bruce could actually die in this matchup. Actually, I think Bats in this thread is Supes' achilles heal. Everytime Bruce would be near death, Supes would have to fly over to rescue Bats' butt.
My scenario is is this, Cosmic. Supes could easily take out Spidey before he would even become an issue, thus leaving the fight suddenly Supes and Bats vs the Hulk, OR Supes vs the Hulk. Either way, I think DC has this in the bag.
Again, I restate I am fans of all these characters, and it is difficult for me to see Spidey and Hulk meeting their makers, but it would happpen.
I don't think it would be that simple for Superman. Batman's out in two seconds, so essentially, this is a Spiderman and Hulk vs Superman thread. Spidey's senses could detect a Superman attack beforehand and evade it, he doesn't need Superman level speed. Hulk is extremely durable, and though he's pretty one dimensional, and nowhere near as fast, with his whole "angrier = stronger" deal, he would give Superman hell. If Spiderman jumped in, it would be pretty hectic for Superman. He can't block both of their attacks. Now Super Breath, on the other hand, could definitly have its effects on Spiderman. But the Hulk would be relentless, and probably hit Superman when he least expected it. Hulk is by no means slow, but his speed pales in comparison to Superman. Doomsday ahd superspeed, but was much slower than Superman also. I understand that Superman is very powerful, fast and can fly, but Hulk has battled people who are just as fast, (Speedfreek, a gay Marvel version Flash, with blades on his forearms,) and as strong as Superman. (Abomination, and Destroyer.) He doesn't encounter many flying enemies though.
Superman can fly at near lightspeed, not run. (As for the whole moon and back deal.)
2 on 1, I still think that "Team Marvel" could take "Team DC."