Batman vs Captain America

Originally posted by Spawnie
Wow, I never knew that Dark Claw made so much impact. Even a toon? Wow! I think my first Dark Claw issue got left back in the States. So it was an interesting Comic? At first I thought of it as a bit too much but the design wasn't that bad. Oh, and yes, I remembered now, the character design worked fine on the cover and in big close ups, but the whole thing deteriorated when he had to be drawn in smaller cells. There is so much detail on the costume that he looks kinda funny done in small proportion. Tell me more about the story.

There wasn't a cartoon, just an animated version of the comic book. There were two different versions, a regular comic and an animated series style.

In the regular comic Dark Claw gets into it with, yes you guessed it, a joker/Sabertooth combination called Jackal or Hyena. Picture Sabertooth clawing away at you and shooing poisonous acids and gases at you. It came to a climax and left you hanging 🙁

The animated version pits him against a Talia(Al Ghul's daughter)/Lady Deathstrike combo. Both comics are fun reads but they both really leave you wanting more and now Amalgam comics is no more 🙁 😠 🙁

I guess it was a pretty good idea but alltogether maybe too much to handle and go on as a long run storyline.
Marvel is all about teasing, and Image is slowly becoming that way also. I'm not liking the slow pace Spawn is going, but now and then Mcfarlane puts in a really interesting story so it's all good for a while lol.
That is the way Marvel is been doing business for decades. I had to buy like 4 or 5 issues of Wolverine just to be satisfied with the story. That's why I do my reading in a cumulative fashion. I wait some tome and then I collect the fruits and read something substantial. I just can't get the satisfaction just from one issue. ANd that my friends is never going to change.
In Japan the Mangaka (the one that draws up the manga comic) is only one. One man for one comic (not for all comics is like that) he does it all, and he has outstanding deadlines, cuz some comics go out weekly. They have comic books that r 1000 pages thik (it's a collection of comics) and it goes out twice a month. That is why the manga style is so simple and quick to draw. Sometimes u see the deadline frustration reflect on the comic too(funny stuff).

Cap is stronger, faster and doesn't get tired, his body doesn't produce the toxin(lactic acid for you other geeks) that gives you fatigue. He can lift 800 pounds which is the most a human could lift if they were born with all the right genes and had all the right training. Same goes for his speed and agility. His condition can't be attained through training alone. He's a soldier and soldiers are the toughest people on earth. Cap wins.

I say cap becuase what he represents.

I like what Cap represents, but I prefere Bats attitude (not saying one or the other would win). I think I've told you before I like the Darker Heros. Any ways I've looked at some of the new Ulitmate Avenger comics and Cap seems to have a more down to earth attitude in them (not quite as idealistic like Superman). I've also noticed in one comic Cap used gas gernades and gas mask in combat (as well as being armed with gernades and such on his costume now).

yeah eidolon, I like dark comics. In the Ultimates cap is kickarse. uses guns and grenades and shit!like a modern soldier. He leads them into battle saying stuff like 'lets go kick their faces in'-ultimate war.

Sounds good, I may have to start reading the Ultimates now.

in dc vs. marvel #3 they fought each other to a standstill, I do think that cap would have eventually won, simply due to age and experience.

btw, my fave amalgam title was Assassins, featuring: Dare (deathstroke/Daredevil), Catsai (catwoman/Elektra), Big Question (Riddler/Kingpin), and of course, Deadeye (Deadshot/Bullseye). The first page was the best scene as Catsai impales Deadeye on her sai and says "I don't know why, but that just felt SO right!" (any fan of daredevil would laugh)

Batman and Captain America are pretty much evenly matched. Cap has a physical advantage because of his metabolism, but I believe that even though Cap is a brilliant and learned individual, Batman has more knowledge he can use in a fight. Batman knows everything, apparently. In Marvel vs. DC, they were evenly matched, but Cap slipped in the sewer or wherever and Batman rescued him. A default victory for the Bat.

yeah that amalgam book rocks!!!
in the crossover they just block the shit out of eachothers punches kicks and chops until they both figure eachother out but batman says to himself 'we're matching eachother stroke for stroke but he has a slight edge', or sommin like that.

Captain America would win i am fan of both comics and i would have to say the captin would win.

Batman did defeat Cap in the DC vs Marvel comics, though they aren't the best written books in the universe.

This would be an even fight, they're both incredibly incredibly well trained fighters who can take on any super powered baddies even without super powers of their own. I like both characters, but Batman always has enough tricks up his sleeves to take down anyone and I think Cap would be no exception.

I think cap takes it. He's been everywhere and done everything! I prefer bats as a character but he wouldn't use anything but his fists and feet against cap coz he's very macho and would want to see if he could beat him.He'd use batarangs at most to counter the shield(in someway) but toe to toe just fighting, the super soldier takes it. believe it or not, cap IS stronger and faster.Cap lifts 8oolbs and bats prob only lifts about 500lbs absolute max. regardless of anything else, thats a huge strength advantage.

Batman is smart enough to trick cap. On making him over confident. But Batman would beat the krap outta Cap.

Bats may win, but it'd be far from a crap kicking on either one's part.

^ i agree. good fight, almost a stalemate, but there'd be 1 winner in the end.

cap wins through his attitude too. He will never stop until he makes America the country he knows it can be. Bats has a negative attitude and doesn't have as much all-american never say die spirit as cap. All this from a Brit!!

I figured I would get some interesting ,provocative posts on this thread after I started it last fall. My heart is still with Batman. Batman is a soldier but he's not the same kind of soldier as Cap. Bats is an urban soldier. // There was a time when Cap clearly had a physical advantage over Batman. That was during the early '70s when Cap achieved super-strength via a serum injected into him by The Viper. Other than that, his physical abilities have been on the same level as Bats' talents. Both soldiers have lifted heavy loads at good power-lifter levels. // Like Cap, Batman wants to see America get better. Yet , Bruce Wayne has experienced something that Steve Rogers never experienced--losing both parents to criminal violence at an early age. Bruce actually saw that and that experience made him destined to become the living symbol of the American Reality.

Originally posted by kal-el
Cap is stronger, faster and doesn't get tired, his body doesn't produce the toxin(lactic acid for you other geeks) that gives you fatigue. He can lift 800 pounds which is the most a human could lift if they were born with all the right genes and had all the right training. Same goes for his speed and agility. His condition can't be attained through training alone. He's a soldier and soldiers are the toughest people on earth. Cap wins.

i agree with you on this one. cap's condition isn't attainable on training alone. so cap is a somewhat mutated human with some of the best training in mortal combat skills. take away cap's sheild and all of batman's arsenal and i think cap would eventually kick his ass coz although bats had experience fighting without his weapons, caps still has a lot more experience fighting with less weapons.

First of all, Captain America does not beat Batman in the latest crossover; they're evenly matched.

You folks might not know this (in fact, I assume that you don't, since none of you brought it up), but Batman and Captain America fight on at least one occasion other than the two crossovers that have been mentioned. It's elseworld, but the only difference I saw was the time period--it was set in the WWII era. You can take it for whatever it's worth.

The result of the battle? A draw. They were so evenly matched that Batman actually declaired the battle to be "pointless." However, they were fighting in their civilian garb--no utility belt and no shield--and neither of them knew the other's identity. The battle ended when Batman deduced that the man he was fighting was Captain America.