(New,but I'll post my opinion)
Revan would win.He was much stronger in the force than dooku,and is awesome with a lightsabre.Just to clear something up I read earlier;Lucasfilm has stated that historically Revan returns to the light side,defeats Bastila in battle,kills Malak,apologizes to Malak for leading him down the path of the dark side,and destroys the star forge.A year after this,Revan leaves the Republic in search of the remnants of the ancient Sith Empire,and put a stop to their potential threat before they attacked the weakened republic.If he completed his mission and returned to the republic is unknown(unless it's in Kotor 2 which I ain't beat yet.)
The darkside was at it's strongest... ah, why? And in who's opinion? Did GL just pop out in some interview and go "Oh, and the time of Sidious is the strongest point for the darkside and all people trained at this time in the Sith ways where unstoppable badasses who could own any Sith before."
Until that happens you remain... extremely wrong in my opinion.
(Ok, I just signed up so i could post here because its ridiculous that some people think Dooku would beat Revan...)
The strongerst age of the dark side was the ancient sith lords like Ajunta Pall. Kreia tells the exile that when you do to Korriban in KOTOR2. She evens says that We are like children playing with toys when you compare yourself to one of the ancient sith lords with a lightsaber.
Anyway, Revan would kick Dooku ass! I honestly think he could best Darth Vader too... ✅
No, see Lucas has said the darkside is at it's most powerful with Sidious around. He's the most powerful Sith ever, and he not only clouds the entire lightside of the force, but he can bullsh*t master Yoda to his face! And! He defeats Yoda!
None of the Sith in the video games could do that.
NONE
And btw, Dooku has defeated Windu, and held his own with Yoda, he could take out Revan.
Alright, let's point out a few things:
First off, my friend (Just so you know this isn't a personal attack) the movie was made before anything else. While originally GL had probably intended for Vader to be the original Sith-meister, with the success of the storyline and the way that it had begun to branch off, it was only a matter of time before someone came up (Or perhaps a few) who were better. I think we can safely consider that to be the case.
Second, none of the video game Sith lords ever confronted Yoda. He wasn't alive then. So I guess that point is moot.
Third, Dooku was quite capable, but Revan was amazing. Think about the difference there. Capable. Amazing. It's like comparing a draft to a raging hurricane. Revan was a Sith Lord. Note that title. You don't get those by being a mere general or tactician. You get those kinda titles by being amazing at everything you need to do to maintain power- kill Jedi, fool Jedi, fool the masses, kill the masses, etc. Why else would Malak have had to wait for so long and for such an opportunity to take control? And note he didn't do it in combat.
And last, Vader is cool, I admit as much. And I bet after seeing Episode III I will have much more respect for him and Sidious than before. Perhaps not. In any case, as I stand now and as I see it, I state Revan to be the victor. Vader doesn't have a leg to stand on.
Originally posted by Darth_Nefarus
No, see Lucas has said the darkside is at it's most powerful with Sidious around. He's the most powerful Sith ever, and he not only clouds the entire lightside of the force, but he can bullsh*t master Yoda to his face! And! He defeats Yoda!
None of the Sith in the video games could do that.
NONEAnd btw, Dooku has defeated Windu, and held his own with Yoda, he could take out Revan.
In response to the question at hand revan would destroy dooku.In one of the visions in Kotor2 in the sith tombs you fight revan and he is wielding two lightsabers only someone extremely powerful in the force with exceptional skill can fight using that form so therefore revan would kill dooku,not to mention if he wasn't betrayed from afar he would have brought the republic to it's knees.
I don't know if you noticed it, but Anakin was using two lightsabers as he was fighting against Dooku. And Dooku easily beat Anakin in that fight. And also notice that Dooku was the apprentice of Yoda himself, the highest member in the jedi council, and after that he was the apprentice of the most powerful sith ever: Darth Sidious. Darth Sidious managed to eradicate almost all the jedi and that although he didn't have an army of dark jedi behind him (although he has an army of clones). Darth Sidious manages to kill four jedi masters of the high council, while fighting against all of them at once. And Darth Sidious manages to beat the highest member of the council. I know that Dooku would never be able to take on four jedi masters, but I don't think that Revan could beat him as easily as some of you people here are saying he would. And the fact that Revan could beat Sidious is absolutely rediculous. I mean like has a single Sith ever been able to eradicate all of the jedi except for two? The only sith lord, that comes near to that would be Darth Nihilus, but he never managed to take over the entire galaxy at the same time.
So Sidious defeated four Jedi Masters at the same time? Wow big deal...
When you see Revan on his ship there are four Jedi Masters there a long with Bastila. Masters that have to be incredibly powerful to be allowed to go on the mission of capturing Revan. Probably the most powerful Masters that they could get at that time. They stood against Revan, and Revan let them come doing nothing.
Casually choking a soldier, not shooting them out of the air. Not joining his forces in a fight he knew his forces would lose, he didn't even send a great amount of troops to destroy them. No he just stood there calmly, and then planned on facing four Jedi Masters and Bastila at once. He would have won too.
Revan defeated Malak who casually killed two Jedi Masters before Revan fought him and was still more then ready to fight Revan. Not only that but Malak had a lot of Jedi to draw power from and refresh himself. He was in control of the star forge, a tool so powerful that only the two most powerful ever could handle it. The Rakatan were destroyed by it. Eventually they grew weaker without challenges and the infinite empire collapsed because there was nobody powerful enough to contro the Star Forge anymore. That and the virus along with a civil war meant the end for their Empire.
Also Revan used to fight against a lot of Mandelorians at the same time, he defeated the highest and most powerful Echani, and later on Mandalore in single combat. Those two were known for combat, they fought and trained all their lives. They may not have been force sensitive but they were surely opponents to be careful for. Many Jedi have been killed by Canderous, who was weaker then Mandalore. Mandalore would easily kill Jedi, and Revan took care of him.
Not even beginning to mention all the countless of battles Revan fought and won. He was the Sith Lord in a time with a lot of Jedi and Sith, many would have faced him trying to get power trying to kill him trying to capture him. Republic Soldiers, Sith Soldiers, Jedi and Sith alike. He won from them all, every single last one of them. He was unchallenged in his life, never once met somebody that could match him that could beat him. Never, and in a time filled with war and so many Jedi and Sith that says a lot.
Sidious played cheap tricks to fool the republic and only in the end attacked. Revan on the other hand was never afraid of the republic or the Jedi knowing damn well he could beat them all, in full scale wars and personal battles and he proved it. Revan sure as hell would have been able to defeat the highest member of the Jedi Council. Hell he had Jedi Councillors working for him in the Mandalorian wars and probably the Sith wars. Jedi Councillors he did not choose as his apprentice, instead he choice Malak. Meaning that Malak was more powerful then Masters, and Malak was surely weaker then Revan.
Now saying that Sidious managed to kill all the Jedi except for two is hardly an accomplishment. How many Jedi were there before the wars started. In Kotor times there were thousands and the Jedi Civil war as it was called (lead by Revan) killed so many that less then a 100 remained. Less then one hundred out of thousands. If thats not effective then i don't know what is. All Nihilus did was kill some of the left overs. Sidious faced less Jedi and killes less. He didn't even succeed in killing the most powerful, and he faced him in battle.
Revan would have easily beaten Vandaar and Vrook, Revan was obviously more powerful then Kreia and we all know how easily Kreia did it.
Dooku is just outclassed by Revan in every single way, there is no way he could win... No matter how much he tried.
Meh. Misconceptions. Let's straighten a few facts out.
Number of Jedi in Revan's time: perhaps thousands. There were thousands upon thousands forty years earlier in the times of Exar Kun, though many were lost then and in the Great Hunt shortly after. Still, more Jedi were alive and active and -fighting Sith and dark Jedi- in this time than for a millenia before TPM.
Number of Jedi in Sidious' time: I wouldn't even say a grand. I imagine there's an exact number somewhere, but it's a fraction of earlier eras. The Jedi Council itself was already in eclipse before Sidious took action.
Methods of eliminating Jedi by Revan: Revan wanted to convert as many as possible, so he recruited talent to track down and capture Jedi. Many were slain, but many more were converted to the darkside and became his vassals. In the two years before Revan was captured by Jedi forces after the betrayal of Malak, the Jedi were decimated, while the Republic, though bloodied, was kept with an infrastructure. Malak resumed the war for another year, being less tactful than his former master and killing wholesale all who stood in his way. In the five years since Revan's disappearance and Malak's demise, it was Sith assassins from Revan's former sect, operating under Kreia's orders (And Kreia was indeed subservient to her former pupil) to continue the elimination of the Jedi. Nihilus strikes a big blow on Katarr by devastating the planet and wiping out most of the ruling council of Jedi, and Sion's actions help track down many more survivors. So one could say that by his subtle machinations, Revan had orchestrated the destruction of the ENTIRE Jedi order, since those who were Jedi either died or renounced their titles and went into exile.
Methods of Sidious: Since the Jedi order was more deeply entrenched in Republic Senate mischief and had a smaller, less cohesive council, Sidious instigated a war that was most likely already brewing in an effort to draw the Jedi into deadly combat. Droids such as JKs (Jedi Killers, out of Cetus) were commissioned to help elminate Jedi. Later on, Anakin is used as a puppet to eliminate many more (With Clone help) as Jedi are labeled enemies of the new Republic under Palpatine. Sidious himself slays only three Jedi masters (The fourth he had help with) and defeated Yoda, though I'm not too sure how close any of these battles were and won't know until the movies come out.
In any case, Revan was deadlier than Sidious, and as you said, Sidious could force spank Dooku to Tattooine and back.
Don't forget that the jedi that boarded Revans flagship were only able to board it because of Bastilas battle meditation and Bastila was never truly a jedi master or ever in the council. And how could you be so sure that the other three jedi where masters or even in the council? And we never actually get to see Revan fight against all of them. And remember that Revan had a lot of super machines as help and none of them were actually made by him. For Example the Star Forge: Who knows what Palpatine would have done if he had had the Star Forge. Second Example Malachor V: Revan used Malachor to convert most of the jedi to the dark side. What would Revan have done without them? Revan would have never been able to convert the jedi for his causes without the Star Forge and Malachor V. Palpatines super weapons were the two Death Stars, they were maybe never as powerful as the Star Forge or Malachor V, but they were created by Sidous himself. Revan just found the Star Forge and Malachor V but he never truly understood how they were built, or he would have built a second Star Forge.