Orcs

orcs are ok I like trolls more

orcs in general? their intelligence and looks are severly lacking, but the Uruk Hai are pretty cool. especially Ugluk

yeah 😄 i like uruk hais too 😈

some guy mentioned to me that Lurzt looked like the wrestler Triple H

Duiscos - and yes he got a slap

haha only read this page and the first 3 posts..and i think gothmog was best..great character, was he an orc? i can do his *the age of men is failing, the time of the orc has come* hey..i guess that means hes an orc yes? lol stupid me..well anyway im gd at that..so gd that everyone gets annoyed hehe lol, i guess it was the face, i thought it was very well done,his right eye,..very nice,and the way they are marching on pelennor fields and send Faramir back to the gates of Minis tirith, then it goes to him on his Warg looking nice and proud..hehe i love that part..oh well ive probably said enough cr** so ill just post it..lol

lol yah the scene with the Warg was cool... or when he spit on the stone the Gondorians had shot before him 😛

yes, he was an orc, at least in the film. Not sure what Gothmog was in the book, Tolkien never explains it, probably an orc, too, but could also be a man or a nazgul there.

yeah Gothmog did seem an unusual character, when we first see his hand on the boats heading into Osgiliath and it seemed they were building up his character as a high sort of character.......in the sense of not showing his face immediatly

if I was an orc under his command I would had griefed him a bit as he told his troops to stay whilst the stones were baraging them...and then he moves

Discos - nyah!

I think Gothmog was a great character (though I didnt like him too much), especially in the river-scene he's cool... I also liked that PJ finally showed a hint that black isnt the usual skin colour of orcs... everybody seems to think so, but Im quite sure that thats wrong... As far as I remember, there are only one or two orcs (uruks I think they were) who are described as having dark skin.

best thing about Orcs: Language and Chants!

hehe, speaking in reference of chants, I found it awesome that the dark armies marching to Minas Tirith had trolls beating drums...

In the EE aren't gimli and aragorn gonna be the ones that do in gothmog???? when i saw it the first time i was thinkin it would be eomer cause it shows gothmog looking all scared as the rohirrim crash into the orcs and then it shows eomer with a spear yelling, but then no more gothmog

i dunno. Gothmog had such a nasty face though. even for an orc.

Let's get this clear, Orcs originated from the Dark Elves.

i wonder what a dark elf would look like? anybody know?

not really, only what I have read really...

also I assumed Gothmog was defeated by the charge of the rohirrm?

he was..in the movies..havnt read the books though..hes getting his army to fire arrows..brings down about 100 riders..he realises they aint dying fast enough..and cr**s himself..lol, well actually..i cant remember.. (dory da fish😛) lol but i think he legged it off past behind the oliphaunts..but i really cant remember..i searched for gothmog in google pictures and it brang up the fire beast that was in lotr : fotr but in cartoony look..so im quite confused as to if the orc is *gothmog* either way i think hes a really gd orc

Originally posted by Kitoky
Let's get this clear, Orcs originated from the [B]Dark Elves. [/B]

Yeah, most probably that, or perhaps also some of the later Light Elves when they lived next to Cuiviénen in the millenia before Orome brought them to the west.

Maybe some are also Light or at least Grey Elves - from Beleriand in Morgoth's dungeons (whence Flinding escaped),
the Kaukareldar, or Tolkien also sometimes suggests Men as the origin of orcs (though he says differently in LoTR)

Exa has spoken! end of argument.
now, back to Grothmog being ugly.....

😛 ... but he also mentions the possibility that orcs might be made of dust and dirt...