Collosus VS The Juggernaut

is that the issue ur refering to when u say colossus got knocked out with one punch?

Originally posted by Never
I strongly suggest you reread your comic book.

When Wolverine uncovered Colossus, guess what? He was still in his organic steel form.

When Colossus is unconscious, he reverts back to human form. Guess he did not knock him out, now did he?

you are going to be upset 🙁 when i prove you wrong. you should read the issue yourself, and stop going on bios. he doesnt always revert to human form please click link below (yes i know the bios state that he does)........

link - http://www.geocities.com/pic_housing2/Colossus_KO1.txt

he is knocked out, and quite clearly in armor form. please dont tell me to read the issues, its clear that i am right on this subject.

Originally posted by Never

In addition, the most cursory glance of the fight reveals that Juggernaut connected more than once. Do you need specific pages/panels from this fight in this issue?

the cover isnt the actual fight. juggernaut throws 1 punch that connects, and it does colossus in....... again he doesnt always revert to human form.

Originally posted by Never

In addition, current "regular" Juggernaut has never encountered full potential Colossus. That would be like...The Rock vs. Woody Allen. LoL, hell...the Class 70, pacifist Piotr gave the classic Juggernaut a workout...and he DAMN sure could not fight (Class 70 Colossus).

i think you are mistaken......... colossus has more than those 2 times been knocked off panel and didnt re-appear until several pages later, he is no match for juggernaut (the 70 ton version). but the 100 ton version, whos to say its any different??? i doubt he would stand up to any more punchs from juggernaut considering 1 did him in...... he might be stronger but that doesnt mean his durability increased. and he doesnt need to know how to fight when hes physically indestructable and 1 hit is all it takes 🙂

Originally posted by Wynndar
is that the issue ur refering to when u say colossus got knocked out with one punch?

yes it is, and its very true......

well if u say it it must be...but i also own the issue and didnt see it that way at all

juggs could never lose to the tin man his might would overwhelm collosus juggernaunt would toy with him.
he might not be up there would the reed richard's and bruce banner's but he would see that collosus has only one game plan: to take off his helmet. sorry but this is a mismatch from the word go.

Originally posted by Wynndar
well if u say it it must be...but i also own the issue and didnt see it that way at all

how is it any different??? colossus didnt get up till juggernaut 1) walked away 2) till wolverine and night crawler dug him from the rubble.

I really think the Astonishing x-men Colossus would give Juggernaut a better fight than ever before. Perhaps we will see a rematch in the near future. I am not counting the tin man out.

(Normal) Juggernaut : too strong for Colossus, doesn't matter which Colossus we're talking about.

He can hold his own for a little while, but that's all he can do. Juggernaut is too strong and especially too tough for Colossus.

Does anybody know of a fight that Juggernaut and Colossus had that Petey acutally won? I cant recall any.

Originally posted by JuggernautFan
but the 100 ton version, whos to say its any different??? i doubt he would stand up to any more punchs from juggernaut

He would have a 30 percent better chance of winning a fight with him so I think it makes a world of difference.

Nah, I disagree. Those few tons strength extra won't save him from Juggernaut.

I would think 30 tons of more strengh would equal more punching power so who knows. We have to remember here Colossus is no longer a teenager like he was during the last battle they had.

Of course Colossus will hit much harder, but will it really make a different against Juggernaut ? I doubt it.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
I would think 30 tons of more strengh would equal more punching power so who knows. We have to remember here Colossus is no longer a teenager like he was during the last battle they had.

I agree.

You people forget that Juggernaut is considered (nigh) invulnerable. Again, Colossus may be much stronger than before, but he still isn't strong enough to seriously hurt Juggernaut.

Originally posted by TheFilmProphet
He would have a 30 percent better chance of winning a fight with him so I think it makes a world of difference.

Hehe, you're going to need toilet paper for where you pulled that figured from.

juggernaut would win, i mean once juggernaut gets going his inertia cant be stopped, along with his freakin cytorrak armor which i dont know if anything could even penetrate it, he's got alot of edge's

but im still rooting for the real man of steel heheh

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Hehe, you're going to need toilet paper for where you pulled that figured from.

Remember he increased from 70 to 100.

Originally posted by Havoc470
but im still rooting for the real man of steel heheh

Yeah! 😈

Originally posted by JuggernautFan
you are going to be upset 🙁 when i prove you wrong. you should read the issue yourself, and stop going on bios. he doesnt always revert to human form please click link below (yes i know the bios state that he does)........

link - http://www.geocities.com/pic_housing2/Colossus_KO1.txt

he is knocked out, and quite clearly in armor form. please dont tell me to read the issues, its clear that i am right on this subject.

LoL, clearly you are not "right" on the subject. Re: reading the issue, I have had it for what, 20 years? Where does it say that Colossus is "out cold?" Where does it say that Colossus is "knocked out?" It does not. You are ASSUMING he is knocked out.

the cover isnt the actual fight. juggernaut throws 1 punch that connects, and it does colossus in....... again he doesnt always revert to human form.

I never said that the cover was the actual fight, nor did I imply it. One in the thread mentioned Ultimate X-Men, hence my posting the actual cover of the issue to avoid further confusion.

i think you are mistaken......... colossus has more than those 2 times been knocked off panel and didnt re-appear until several pages later, he is no match for juggernaut (the 70 ton version). but the 100 ton version, whos to say its any different??? i doubt he would stand up to any more punchs from juggernaut considering 1 did him in...... he might be stronger but that doesnt mean his durability increased. and he doesnt need to know how to fight when hes physically indestructable and 1 hit is all it takes 🙂

We are not discussing whether or not Colossus is "knocked off panel." YOU said Juggernaut landed ONCE, and that is the ONE punch that knocked Colossus out. I NEVER said that Class 70 Colossus is a match for Classic Juggernaut; I said, quote, that "he gave him a workout." And he DID.

In addition, I did not opine that Class 100 Colossus is a match for Classic Juggernaut - I said that Class 100 Colossus would stomp the hell out of the CURRENT depowered Juggernaut.

So, again - Colossus reverts to human form when he is knocked out AND Juggernaut landed MORE than one punch. I most certainly will dig out the issue and refer you to specific pages and panels.

Still waiting for you to "prove me wrong."