Collosus VS The Juggernaut

Old School Collosus was pretty ****ing strong, most probably the only one on the planet who could put up a decent fight against Hulk. That is at least untill Jugss first appeared.

old School Collosus vs. Current Juggs will be a slaughter house, in the end Juggs will win becuase he is simply undestractable, unless Collosus manages to remove the helmet and smash in his face. And old school collosus is definitly capable of doing that. If he has the speed advantage he will remove the helmet and smash Juggs face, however; he needs to get the speed advantage..it all depends on that 🙂

Originally posted by Ponem
unless Collosus manages to remove the helmet and smash in his face.

Unless Colossus' fist is a sleepy thought, it's not going to help. The helmet is only to protect Juggernaut's mind.

Originally posted by Swanky-Tuna
Unless Colossus' fist is a sleepy thought, it's not going to help. The helmet is only to protect Juggernaut's mind.

I'd liketo see Juggs face meet head on with Old School Collossus fist though.

Originally posted by Ponem
I'd liketo see Juggs face meet head on with Old School Collossus fist though.

Definitely.

lol, having colossus punch you in the face is about the same as jean grey or xavier mentally attacking you

Originally posted by Havoc470
lol, having colossus punch you in the face is about the same as jean grey or xavier mentally attacking you

True lol.

Originally posted by Havoc470
lol, having colossus punch you in the face is about the same as jean grey or xavier mentally attacking you

Not when you're Juggernaut, who can take the punch with a smile, then deliver a punch about 5 times harder. Classic Colossus vs. Current Juggernaut would be a slaughter, for Juggernaut. Colossus takes the win easy on that part. Classic Juggernaut on the other hand, wins with ease, it may be a long fight if it's Colossus at class 100, but Juggy takes it in the end. And Juggernaut's already fought Colossus without his helmet (and without his armor), and took every single one of Colossus's punches, and simply ended the fight with a single punch, his only punch. I'll give old Peter some credit, he can give a good fight, but it won't be enough to beat Juggernaut, classic Juggernaut

And Ponem, Marvel made Juggernaut long before they made Colossus.😉

Juggernaut 5 punch 5x harder than Peter?...i think he punches harder but not that hard...Colossus has always given Jugs a good fight....the nature of his power doesnt allow him to beat colossus, like i said before, there is a threshold just past the power Cytorak empowers Jugs...if anyone passes that threshold or is stronger than Cytorak in general, then they can stop Jugs... Jugs isnt goin to just laugh off a blast from the Beyonder or anything

Originally posted by Ponem
Old School Collosus was pretty ****ing strong, most probably the only one on the planet who could put up a decent fight against Hulk. That is at least untill Jugss first appeared.

Not really. Old School Colossus was about Class 70 strength. He has since received a considerable upgrade, boosting him into the Class 100 strength class.

Abomination, Juggernaut, Thor - even Surfer beat Hulk in Tales To Astonish #93.

Apparently people forget how versatile Surfer is. For example, he simply drained Hulk's gamma radiation in IH #250, turning him back into Bruce Banner.

colossus in the recent astonishing xmen is pretty damn strong, quite off-topic but i just wanted to say that lol

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wynndar
yea thats why i think it makes perfect sense for Onslaught to beat Jugs....once u pass that threshold Jugs will fold like a little ho....he is not mentally tough like Thing or colossus, he can be like that cuz he doesnt have to deal with the pain....Thing and Colossus both fought Champion until they were nearly killed and thing kept crawling after him when he couldnt stand anymore....Jugs wakes up from Onslaught and started running for his life until he found out he wasnt in canada anymore (not even a real country anyway) [/QUOTE

Originally posted by Havoc470
colossus in the recent astonishing xmen is pretty damn strong, quite off-topic but i just wanted to say that lol

That should be the upgraded one. He's stronger, bigger, and weighs a hell of a lot more too.

do he and Jugs have a conflict?.....cuz present colossus would wipe the floor with present Jugs...a few issues ago Jugs was struggling with sub-colossus level weights in the danger room

You mean like how Wolverine and Sabertooth have one? Hard to say...Colossus kind of held his own when Wolverine took Peter out to get into a fight (with Juggernaut in the bar) after he broke Kitty's heart in Secret Wars...hard to say if they have one of those "if I ever see him in the street again I'll beat his ass" conflicts though. Yeah, present Colossus is kind of sick...

Originally posted by Wynndar
do he and Jugs have a conflict?.....cuz present colossus would wipe the floor with present Jugs

Definitely. 😈

i doubt the current juggernaut would lose, he's still shown to be able to knock out rhino pretty easily.

maybe on one of his bad days, when he is severily depleted of power (since it is generally fluctuating) he -might- lose.

but i doubt it still

besides juggernaut will be back anytime now, then hes gonna wipe the floor with the x-men.

*Spoilers perhaps*

Originally posted by JuggernautFan
besides juggernaut will be back anytime now, then hes gonna wipe the floor with the x-men.

I hope Black Tom isn't mad about getting ripped apart though.

yea Colossus did hold his own in that fight, considering how much vastly more powerful Jugs is

Originally posted by Wynndar
yea Colossus did hold his own in that fight, considering how much vastly more powerful Jugs is

True. But that was old Colossus that wouldn't happen to the new one.

Originally posted by Wynndar
Juggernaut 5 punch 5x harder than Peter?...i think he punches harder but not that hard...Colossus has always given Jugs a good fight....the nature of his power doesnt allow him to beat colossus, like i said before, there is a threshold just past the power Cytorak empowers Jugs...if anyone passes that threshold or is stronger than Cytorak in general, then they can stop Jugs... Jugs isnt goin to just laugh off a blast from the Beyonder or anything

I didn't mean 5 times harder literally, but you get the idea though. And the whole power threshold thing, how is Colossus gonna pass this? He'd have to surpass Hulk in strength, and I don't see that happening. War Hulk passed that threshold maybe, but he was still unable to hurt him.

Originally posted by Never
You mean like how Wolverine and Sabertooth have one? Hard to say...Colossus kind of held his own when Wolverine took Peter out to get into a fight (with Juggernaut in the bar) after he broke Kitty's heart in Secret Wars...hard to say if they have one of those "if I ever see him in the street again I'll beat his ass" conflicts though. Yeah, present Colossus is kind of sick...

I don't know if I'd say kinda held his own, Juggernaut wasn't really fighting back at the start of it. And the only punch Juggernaut threw, was the one that ended the fight. On a good day Colossus could usually last a little longer, but of course that wasn't his day. And current Colossus can definitely go a few rounds with classic Juggernaut, but I doubt he would actually win.