Radagst the Brown

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So...I think we were talking about a Moth...weren't we ?

I am just saying that it is pretty good luck that that Eagle came along for Gandalf when he was ontop of Isengard...or else he might have still been up there !!!

Originally posted by A.D. Skinner
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So...I think we were talking about a Moth...weren't we ?

I am just saying that it is pretty good luck that that Eagle came along for Gandalf when he was ontop of Isengard...or else he might have still been up there !!!

no, but it's pretty good luck that a moth flew hundreds of meters in the air over a mine...
and that it was just when he was on top of isengard... lol

Yes...that too in itself was very good luck ! And the leap that Gandalf made onto the back of the Eagle...this was amazing.

Though I think I might have forgotten a key issue...how did Gandalf regain his Staff from Sauroman

If the eagle had not come.
The tale would have been very different
as in the books, when gandalf escapes saruman isnt there, he is being questioned by the nazgul.

He goes up to the top of the tower to ask gandalf for forgivness and friendship. but gandy is gone

And in the book, its even more lucky that a giant eagle just happens to be flying around isengard

Originally posted by Sauron
If the eagle had not come.
The tale would have been very different
as in the books, when gandalf escapes saruman isnt there, he is being questioned by the nazgul.

He goes up to the top of the tower to ask gandalf for forgivness and friendship. but gandy is gone

It's not known if that tale is true.
Read Unfinished Tales.
Tolkien never fully 'Finished' that Tale.

It is true.

Okie dokie, smokie.

we have already discussed this.....Mothy's name is LARRY!

Yes, that is true

The Idea that Radagast(or his presence) is in the movie in the form of a moth....(THE MOTH)...Interests me so much, and its a wonder I never noticed it before...😖(and I'm extrmly greatfull to melkor for finding a topic that as far as I know HASN"T BEEN DISCUSSED YET!😄)
Your theory makes perfect sence...Radagast is know for his nature and especially birds...ect. And dosn't gandalf use radagast as a mesenger or somthing for the eagles😖?(itBook)

Gandalf is imprisoned on top of ORTHANC and Radagast finds him...Gandalf whispers somthing in his ear...(which I didn't understand till now...I mean why was he talking to the moth? -to give radagast a message, of course!) finaly its clear to me...Radagast is in the backround of the movie the whole time...cloaked in a desguise.
In ROTK we find that Radagast is coming to the aid of gandalf(and the world) again, He brings the Eagles, and who else could convince Gwahir and the others to fly to the aid of Middle Earth, but for RAdagast, if not for gandalf, Radagast is the ONLY one who could of convinced the eagles to come...
Ok thats looking at it from a movie point of view....in the books I understand the difs...
Seeing as gandalf was busy, PJ put Radagast in the movie, to be a messenger to the eagles....but instead of introducing us to a totaly NEW 'person' PJ and his briliant mind...uses radagast in a way that is magical: in the form of a moth...
and gives us that awe and wonder, the same awe and wonder, when we see gandalf's fireworks the first time, or Saruman's treachery...the only kind of awe that could come from a Wizard: Radagast.

Thanks Smodden.

btw this is whats so great about LOTR...there is always somthing new to discover, and find. It never gets old.

Radagast did not really do his duty to the Valar though, as he didn't even act to the full extent of his poor abilities.

I feel that way too, because he became sidetracked from his true purpose (to battle Sauron (not literally)).

not that the three colourful wizards ever counted for much 😬

Which colorful wizards?
Alatar, Pallando, and Aiwendil (Radagast)?

the two blue ones and the brown one 😛 white and grey are not 'colourful' colours

And I may add that Saruman's morality and true power decreased along with his melanin (to the hair follicles) 😱

Well, Radagast became pretty much a monk, and the Blue Wizards (Ithryn Luin) went into Rhun.