Radagst the Brown

Originally posted by Melkórë
Well, Radagast became pretty much a monk, and the Blue Wizards (Ithryn Luin) went into Rhun.

Rhun...AKA East....a.k.a.....MORDOR...
Its a theory...
I mean they wander off towards the east...never to return again...sounds suspicious...maybee they were converted...or somthing/destroyed/died/became evil???not sure...

To be fair, brown ain't much of a colour either.

Not sure either, though Saruman accompanied them to their destiny, before he became evil.

Originally posted by Melkórë
Not sure either, though Saruman accompanied them to their destiny, before he became evil.

It was just around the time that they arrived (give or take a hundred or so years).........before Saruman studied Sauron, and the Rings..................and Alatar and Pallando were told to go East, I think............

Originally posted by Smodden
The Idea that Radagast(or his presence) is in the movie in the form of a moth....(THE MOTH)...Interests me so much, and its a wonder I never noticed it before...😖(and I'm extrmly greatfull to melkor for finding a topic that as far as I know HASN"T BEEN DISCUSSED YET!😄)
Your theory makes perfect sence...Radagast is know for his nature and especially birds...ect. And dosn't gandalf use radagast as a mesenger or somthing for the eagles😖?(itBook)

Gandalf is imprisoned on top of ORTHANC and Radagast finds him...Gandalf whispers somthing in his ear...(which I didn't understand till now...I mean why was he talking to the moth? -to give radagast a message, of course!) finaly its clear to me...Radagast is in the backround of the movie the whole time...cloaked in a desguise.
In ROTK we find that Radagast is coming to the aid of gandalf(and the world) again, He brings the Eagles, and who else could convince Gwahir and the others to fly to the aid of Middle Earth, but for RAdagast, if not for gandalf, Radagast is the ONLY one who could of convinced the eagles to come...
Ok thats looking at it from a movie point of view....in the books I understand the difs...
Seeing as gandalf was busy, PJ put Radagast in the movie, to be a messenger to the eagles....but instead of introducing us to a totaly NEW 'person' PJ and his briliant mind...uses radagast in a way that is magical: in the form of a moth...
and gives us that awe and wonder, the same awe and wonder, when we see gandalf's fireworks the first time, or Saruman's treachery...the only kind of awe that could come from a Wizard: Radagast.

In the Hobbit Gandalf and gwahir are friends. And has helped him before.

This is true. I wish there was a story about Radagast.. Would be very interesting - he's the Mud Wizard(Not mad, you'll notice. That was Saruman)

Uh.....really, Khâu?

There are seven wizards mentioned in the hobbit. Gandalf talks to Radagast and they mention the Necromancer fought by the council while the expedition is lost in the forest.

There are not seven wizards!
Don't know where you get your knowledge from..........................

There are five wizards, aren't there? I always thought so.

Yes. Five. Not seven.
Listen to poor old Tar-Lómillondacil!

The two blue wizards founded various cults in the east

Thats not confirmed, thats just what Tolkien said in his Letters, to explain what may have happened to them.

There is a council mentioned in the Hobbit of many wizards that stood against the Necromancer in Mirkwood and pushed him out... maybe there was only five... i read the Hobbit 5 years ago and i keep seeing seven in my head...

Well......I take a look at my copy.....

Originally posted by RaventheOnly
There is a council mentioned in the Hobbit of many wizards that stood against the Necromancer in Mirkwood and pushed him out... maybe there was only five... i read the Hobbit 5 years ago and i keep seeing seven in my head...

The council was made up of many members...5 of which were wizards...I also know Galadrial was a member of the council too...so that makes 6...I know there was another member....I think you right about the '7' though...🙂
but not all 7 were wizards...

btw the council was awesome! so many powerfull people assembyled in one place. deciding the fate of the world and then going out and battling the giver in mirkwood!...I loved that part of the books...

No, three were Istari.
Council members were:
Saruman (Head), Galadriel, Celeborn, Elrond, Gandalf, Radagast, Cirdan, Erestor, Glorfindel, and it is recorded that the sons of Elrond, Elladan and Elrohir, were at least at the Council which decided the Siege on Dol Guldur.
There were seven 'Normals': Saruman, Gandalf, Elrond, Galadriel, Radagast, Celeborn, and Cirdan.
Four known 'Lieutenants', or, 'Scribes': Elladan, Elrohir, Erestor, and Glorfindel.
Haldir is said to be among the Councillors aswell.

The other two Ithryn Luin (Blue Wizards) went into Rhun.

Originally posted by Melkórë

The other two Ithryn Luin (Blue Wizards) went into Rhun.

oh...luin and the other dude, wern't there? ok....
erm...ok

so when Gandalf says in FOTR, "I must see saruman...he's the head of my order"...what does that mean?
my order?
of the white council? of the 5 wizards?

Well, thats contradictory.
In Unfinished Tales, it seems that Saruman is the Head of the Five, yet other sources seem to point out that Gandalf was the more learned, and indeed wiser.
But, by that, in the movie, I believe the writers of the movie meant the Five, because the White Council isn't even mentioned.
And even then, it is strange, because only two Wizards are in the movie.
Gandalf gives the impression there are many wizards in Middle-earth, when that is false: there are five 'Wizards'. Mages are many, indeed, but they do not follow the Istari's code.
In Valinor, I do believe that there were many Istari.