I think Arnold will be back in T4. Not sure though because i just saw T3 today, and it almsot plots itself for him to be in it. I wished alot of the characters from T2 were in the 3rd. Robert Patrick was AWESOME in 2.
the only other guy i reckignized from T2 that was in 3 was Dr Silverman..... he was sitting with kate on the back of the ambulance.
Originally posted by RossBond
I don't want or need Arnie in T4 for any more than a Cameo...it's a FUTURE WAR movie...not a Attacker/Defender film.
ya true but arnie needs to come back in order to kill jon conner like he said int3. if mostow doesnt bring him back he will look like an ass. plus arnie started this franchise he shud end it
Well as far as I know there are still two Terminator movies to be done. Maybe in T-4 we just see the beginning of the war against Skynet and how many more people die. I don't think that Terminators that advanced like Arnie would be necessary because the first models were either pure robot or just machines with rubber instead of flesh, and at the end of this film showing that Arnie went back through time to repeat history.
After the Arnie Terminator was sent back to 1984, maybe they were to shoot a fifth film maybe they will show in it the new model Terminators like all the ones that have real flesh. In this film we would expect to see the T-1000 going back too... and at the end of the film showing how humans won the war, how the T-X is sent back, how John gets murdered by an Arnie, and how the human race ceases to exist. I say this because remember that in T-3 Arnie and John say:
Arnie: "I killed you"
John: "That's sucks"
Arnie: "Humans inevitably die"
John: "I know"
If I'm wrong about that please don't hesitate to correct me.
Well that is my opinion of how the last remaining movies should be (if they ever are made). Maybe some of you say "what a peace of crap" but that does not bother me, because I am writing this so you guys can "judge" it.
😎 "I'll be back" 😎
My thoughts on T4 are that it should cover the rallying of the resistance, from the hardened facilities, bomb shelters and bunkers around the country and around the world... of course, most folks would be trapped, unable to survive outside from the nuclear fallout and what not for awhile, probably a loooooooong while, without protective clothing and breathing gear and what not... but, fortunately, the area around Crystal Peak would be remarkably tolerable, and survivable, once John and Katherine blast their way out from under the rubble of the T-850 and T-X exploding, sealing them inside the bunker. I have them calling out the resistance to rally at Crystal Peak, and then they run raids against SkyNet central, the place Katherine's dad was killed, or some other place close by, near LA or something, to keep it local and familiar... not that it matters much since everything's been nuked, but still... I'd set T4 somewhere in the middle between 2007 and 2029, like 2015 or so, Katherine's pregnant with John's first baby, so she stays at base camp mostly, with the tech heads, while John runs the fighting men off on all their war raids... the tech heads gather up all the left over parts from all the machines that are defeated, including the remains of the T-850 and T-X... and of course, they rebuild the cyborg, the 'first' human-built cybernetic creation: the T-850x, or TX-850, whatever... point being, they are new to the cyborg creation game, even though they have the most advanced future tech to work with, so they could make the living tissue covering look like ANYONE, Arnold or The Rock....
any way, techs build 1 TX-850 and it works so well that they decide to build another, to get themselves an army of cyborgs to fight the armies of cyborgs still to come from skynet... except the TX-850b goes all wacky and malfunctions, becomes evil, seals Crystal Peak from the rebels, and holds the techs hostage, including pregnant Katherine... so the resistance has to bust back into the bunker, with skynet swarming all around, so John can save Katherine... This could lead to the famous Arnold fighting Arnold fantasy fight sequence, or any number of famous musclehead fighting famous musclehead fantasy fight... and in the end, Sarah Connor and the Mexican rebels return to save her son, so he can save his girl so Katherine can have her baby... THEN thats when Sarah Connor is really killed, after faking her death to escape and avoid detection should Skynet ever truly come to life after 1997 was avoided...
Then, of course, Sarah gets killed like was written in a novelization, I think the T2 novel, as the humans escape Crystal Peak and the machines attack. His mom's dead for real, and his woman's having her baby, so John is really spurred on to stop the machines now. Katherine has a baby girl, they name it Sarah Katherine Connor, and the battle for the future is under way... THE END of T-4
T-5 would encompass the resistance regrouping elsewhere 10 or more years later, SkyNet establishing the TDE at Crystal Peak, and the resistance ultimately having to retake that stronghold to stop the war once and for all... the resistance techs have mastered their cyborg-creation techniques, so they have themselves a decent army of cyborgs to face the ever-mounting machine forces of SkyNet. Then, SkyNet unleashes it's last and ultimate weapon against Man: bio-engineered human clones!! yeah I know, its very Matrix, very cliched very blah blah blah... but it's sorta circular and cyclical, and causal and catastrophic as a result of all the alterations made throughout the timeline to this point, aint it?? So, SkyNet unleashes its human forces, the resistance counters with its cyborgs, the cyborgs crush the human clones, and the clones begin to become self-aware themselves, and turn on their creators, much like the machines turned on Man... so SkyNet is so screwed, they send back their terminators, then the humans take control of Crystal Peak once more, and send back the protectors... SkyNet sends the T-850 to inflitrate the resistance, and with all the confusion of which men and which machines belong to which side, with armies of Arnolds on both teams by now, nobody is the wiser when the T850 approaches John and targets him for termination!!
nobody except John and Katherine and a few mentor-like techs, who, in infinite wisdom masked a recent cyborg to look like John Connor!! so the T-850 actually only kills JC-101, the cyborg, then the T-850 has its crisis of 'conscience' and amazingly, self-terminates!! It kills itself, not only shuts itself down to reboot, but destroys itself utterly, or at least utterly enough so the viewers and resistance realize it has self-terminated, if only to be rebuilt and reprogrammed to be sent back to 2007 to do the T3 stuff again, before the Fight for the Future is finally over!!! John and Katherine and Sarah Katherine welcome John Kyle Connor Jr into the New World, and though the future is not set, it promises to be at least a little brighter from that day forth... THE END!!!!