Daredevil VS Captain America

Started by jrodslam4 pages

Originally posted by Alfheim
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Stop being a fanboy the only thing that DD has over Cap is that he has slightly better reflexes. How is DD going to get the majority when Cap is superior to DD in everything except reflexes and even then DD is only slightly more agile?

I dont think Cap curbstomps DD but Cap wins 6/10.

Why would i be considered a fanboy? Either way, DD having better reflexes does/can give him an edge. Secondly, Caps superior strength(ony slightly), wouldnt play much of a factor. Thirdly, how do you know Cap is superior to DD in everything save reflexes and agility? Speed? We do know that Cap is a faster runner, but that doesnt mean his hand speed is faster.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Why would i be considered a fanboy? Either way, DD having better reflexes does/can give him an edge. Secondly, Caps superior strength(ony slightly), wouldnt play much of a factor. Thirdly, how do you know Cap is superior to DD in everything save reflexes and agility? Speed? We do know that Cap is a faster runner, but that doesnt mean his hand speed is faster.

I already explained that in our last discussion Cap has more experience and more MA knowledge than DD and also he has better Stamina. He has an indestrcutible weapon.

DD's only advantage is his reflexes Cap has more advantages.

Originally posted by Alfheim
I already explained that in our last discussion Cap has more experience and more MA knowledge than DD and also he has better Stamina. He has an indestrcutible weapon.

DD's only advantage is his reflexes Cap has more advantages.

And in our last discussion, you didnt explain how Cap had more MA knowledge than DD. Your backup to that claim was a scan saying he was "FAMILIAR" with the style. Daredevil isnt some novice, so Cap experience wouldnt play much of a factor in a fight between the two. Neither one of them would do anythig the other hasnt already seen. I mentioned that in our last debate between the two. Cap does have a indestructible weapon. A weapon that can easily find its way out of the fight if Cap decided to throw it. In past tussle between the two, stamina has never been an issue.

The things you bring up now are the same exact things you brought up before. They get the same rebuttle.

I think Cap is a bit stronger. And faster. He said he could run a mile in just over a minute.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
I think Cap is a bit stronger. And faster. He said he could run a mile in just over a minute.

I do agree that Cap is a bit stronger, but strength wont play muchof an issue here. And re: speed.

Originally posted by jrodslam
We do know that Cap is a faster runner, but that doesnt mean his hand speed is faster.

Originally posted by jrodslam
And in our last discussion, you didnt explain how Cap had more MA knowledge than DD. Your backup to that claim was a scan saying he was "FAMILIAR" with the style. Daredevil isnt some novice, so Cap experience wouldnt play much of a factor in a fight between the two. Neither one of them would do anythig the other hasnt already seen. I mentioned that in our last debate between the two. Cap does have a indestructible weapon. A weapon that can easily find its way out of the fight if Cap decided to throw it. In past tussle between the two, stamina has never been an issue.

The things you bring up now are the same exact things you brought up before. They get the same rebuttle.

You didnt rebut a damn thing you refused to use your head. Again.

1. Cap knew about ninjutsu before DD was born
2. Even when he came out of ice DD hadnt started his career or had already started.
3. He constanly trains all the time. When this was stated he was doing combat training in the Danger room
4. He learns extremely fast as well he learnt an ALIEN martial art in one day. While over people took decades.

If you have somebody has studied MA before DD was born who trains constantly all the time and learns extremely fast he is going to know more MA and have more experience.

Originally posted by Alfheim
You didnt rebut a damn thing you refused to use your head. Again.

1. Cap knew about ninjutsu before DD was born
2. Even when he came out of ice DD hadnt started his career or had already started.
3. He constanly trains all the time. When this was stated he was doing combat training in the Danger room
4. He learns extremely fast as well he learnt an ALIEN martial art in one day. While over people took decades.

If you have somebody has studied MA before DD was born who trains constantly all the time and learns extremely fast he is going to know more MA and have more experience.

Daredevil is still better.

Originally posted by Alfheim
You didnt rebut a damn thing you refused to use your head. Again.

1. Cap knew about ninjutsu before DD was born
2. Even when he came out of ice DD hadnt started his career or had already started.
3. He constanly trains all the time. When this was stated he was doing combat training in the Danger room
4. He learns extremely fast as well he learnt an ALIEN martial art in one day. While over people took decades.

If you have somebody has studied MA before DD was born who trains constantly all the time and learns extremely fast he is going to know more MA and have more experience.

Cap has trained longer, and harder than Karate Kid.
I guess that makes him a better fighter as well...ermm

Originally posted by SmellyDogFart
Daredevil is still better.

Explain.

Originally posted by Tyrant
Cap has trained longer, and harder than Karate Kid.
I guess that makes him a better fighter as well...ermm

Inst KK superhuman?

Originally posted by SmellyDogFart
Daredevil is still better.
i disagree

Originally posted by Alfheim
You didnt rebut a damn thing you refused to use your head. Again.

1. Cap knew about ninjutsu before DD was born
2. Even when he came out of ice DD hadnt started his career or had already started.
3. He constanly trains all the time. When this was stated he was doing combat training in the Danger room
4. He learns extremely fast as well he learnt an ALIEN martial art in one day. While over people took decades.

If you have somebody has studied MA before DD was born who trains constantly all the time and learns extremely fast he is going to know more MA and have more experience.

Ummm, this is my last reply to your circle of ignorance.

1. Ok, Cap was "familiar" with the Hand's style of martial arts before DD was born which is ninjitsu. That doesnt mean he has more knowledge than DD in the subject. It just means he knew about it before DD. Thats all. DD's training in the art may be more extensive than Caps, considering DD spent much time in Japan and with trainer Stick. To be familiar with it doesnt mean to have extensive knowledge. You seem not to understand that.

2. So what DD hadnt started his career yet. Again, it doesnt mean he(Cap) knows more about a certain subject area.

3. This "constant training" consists of what? Do you know? Was it stated? For all we know, the "constant training" could be gymnastics, boxing, judo and grappling.

4. He learnt an alien MA in one day that took others decades? Thats great! What other highly sklled MA's took decades to learn this Alien MA? Was it DD? Was it Fist, Shang, Elektra, or Wolvie? If not, then its irrelevant to even bring it up.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Inst KK superhuman?
Not that I recall.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Ummm, this is my last reply to your circle of ignorance.

1. Ok, Cap was "familiar" with the Hand's style of martial arts before DD was born which is ninjitsu. That doesnt mean he has more knowledge than DD in the subject. It just means he knew about it before DD. Thats all. DD's training in the art may be more extensive than Caps, considering DD spent much time in Japan and with trainer Stick. To be familiar with it doesnt mean to have extensive knowledge. You seem not to understand that.

No this is what you dont get. Are you trying to tell me that after all this time hes still famliar with ninjitsu. You dont think with his constant training and super learning skills that he would have got even better at it?

Originally posted by jrodslam

2. So what DD hadnt started his career yet. Again, it doesnt mean he(Cap) knows more about a certain subject area.

It most likely does. What is so difficult to understand. If im in the sceond year of my degree im probably going to know more than somebody who is the first year of degree. Simple.

Originally posted by jrodslam

3. This "constant training" consists of what? Do you know? Was it stated? For all we know, the "constant training" could be gymnastics, boxing, judo and grappling.

Look its simple again. Cap is an MA expert. How does he beat people up, MA. How does he survive. What do you think they were refering to basketball?

Originally posted by jrodslam

4. He learnt an alien MA in one day that took others decades? Thats great! What other highly sklled MA's took decades to learn this Alien MA? Was it DD? Was it Fist, Shang, Elektra, or Wolvie? If not, then its irrelevant to even bring it up.

If its an alien martial art obvoulsy its going to be harder to learn than an earthly martial art. If he can learn an alien martial art in one day, how much do you think he knows about erathly martial arts? How much do you think hes improved in ninjiutsu?

Originally posted by Tyrant
Not that I recall.

Well boy KK has taken out Kryptonian. Thats makes him SUPERhuman.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well boy KK has taken out Kryptonian. Thats makes him SUPERhuman.
No it doesn't.
It makes him a normal human with amazing fighting skills.

Plus, ol' steroid Steve can't say the same.

Originally posted by Tyrant
No it doesn't.
It makes him a normal human with amazing fighting skills.

Plus, ol' steroid Steve can't say the same.

Well boy its like this. If KK can take out several people Krptonians that must mean hes been trained differently to most MAs.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well boy its like this. If KK can take out several people Krptonians that must mean hes been trained differently to most MAs.

No, it means he's better.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
No, it means he's better.

Well look its like this. I dont much about KK but it seems hes the excpetion to the rule. Most MAs in Marvel or DC cant do half the stuff he does.

Usually if somebody has peak human intelligence and has been studing the same martial art as somebody before they are born and trains 247 is usually a good indication that this person knows more MA.

Cap has stated many a time that th reason why he has deafted another MA is because he has more experience but obvoulsy there will be some exceptions to the case.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well look its like this. I dont much about KK but it seems hes the excpetion to the rule. Most MAs in Marvel or DC cant do half the stuff he does.

Usually if somebody has peak human intelligence and has been studing the same martial art as somebody before they are born and trains 247 is usually a good indication that this person knows more MA.

Cap has stated many a time that th reason why he has deafted another MA is because he has more experience but obvoulsy there will be some exceptions to the case.

But you didn't catch the point here.
Cap has been training longer, and harder than KK.
Which means, that your little example is off.

Also, Wolverine has been training way longer than Cap, so in your own words, that should make him better, but also in your own words, Cap is a better fighter.

Wat up wit dat?

Originally posted by Tyrant
But you didn't catch the point here.
Cap has been training longer, and harder than KK.
Which means, that your little example is off.

No it doesnt it means that KK is the excpetion to the rule. Look at the word I used. I used the word usually. KK is the excpetion to the rule but DD is not. Again dont you think if Cap has been studying MA before DD was born and learns extremly quickly that he would know more MA than DD?

As I have stated Cap has beaten MA experts and it has been stated many a times its because of his experience. Experience is usually a good indication of wether somebody is a better MA. KK is the excpetion to the rule but DD is not.

Originally posted by Tyrant

Also, Wolverine has been training way longer than Cap, so in your own words, that should make him better, but also in your own words, Cap is a better fighter.

Wat up wit dat?

1. No he hasnt Korvac saga.
2. Wolverine isnt as intellignet as Cap and doesnt train as much as Cap does. Caps intellignece and fanatacism makes up for it.

Originally posted by Alfheim
No it doesnt it means that KK is the excpetion to the rule. Look at the word I used. I used the word [B] usually. KK is the excpetion to the rule but DD is not. Again dont you think if Cap has been studying MA before DD was born and learns extremly quickly that he would know more MA than DD?

As I have stated Cap has beaten MA experts and it has been stated many a times its because of his experience. Experience is usually a good indication of wether somebody is a better MA. KK is the excpetion to the rule but DD is not.[/B]

Another example is in order.
Batman hasn't been alive as long as Cap, and yet, he is believed to be an equal, give or take.
Plus, not to mention, it doesn't work like that in comics, or in real life all the time.

Herc has more experience than Cap, as does Thor, as does hundreds of people. But, they are not believed to be more skilled.

Originally posted by Alfheim
1. No he hasnt Korvac saga.
2. Wolverine isnt as intellignet as Cap and doesnt train as much as Cap does. Caps intellignece and fanatacism makes up for it.
Which, I don't think he remembered.
Also, even if you go by that, Wolverine is what like, a hundred or so years ahead of Cap?
Unless Cap was fighting for years before each time the universe was restarted, then he hasn't been training as long.

Wolverine is very intelligent, and he has even taught Kitty how to disable people, and how to not kill someone.