if you are implying that me and bakerboy are D.C. comicbook members R.J. then you are waaaayyyy off base,all you got to do is look at one of my latest posts and you will see how I hate the first two batman movies and find tim burtons batman movies highly overrated as well.Just ask that poster the joker,he will tell you I bash the first two batman films all the time as well.
soooo wait...you hate the batman movies, and the spiderman movies...let me guess, you dislike the incredible hulk because its so boring, and confusing, and you hate daredevil because it has ben in it.
and what the crap was that about childish 7 of your(extremely spam tastic) post ago.
okay people look here, the ULTIMATE hypocrisy
Originally posted by Mr Parker
👇 Robo-chocoba,first off,I want to say thank you for not responding in a chilidish manner like MR ZERO,CARNAGE,FECE MAN AND MAN OF WAR and SPIDERGURL have.thats all I ask for,if you can respond more often like this and not resort to name calling like CARNAGE did when someone has countered your point , then this CAN be a fun discussion....and spidergurl,I think bakerboy would disagree with you that I am weakening him rather than helping him.go back to the first page and you will see how chilidish MR ZERO,CARNAGE,FECEMAN,ROBO CHOCOCO AND MAN OF WAR acted towards him and I am sure bakerboy would tell you he appreciates me defending him against those childish posters.
how can you say very mature then say im childish...
and did you say that you havent even SEEN spiderman2 yet, but here you are posting on a thread about it....omg..this guys whack...
i mean, simply refusing to even see a movie simply because you heard this or read that, is ludicrous. your saying you didnt even go see Spiderman until it came out on cable...why is that...did his lack of web shooters make you un happy that much?
about the movie, u must have something on ur mind, its an ADAPTATION,dude, a new stile, and as raimi said on first spider interview he wanted to contestualize spiderman to our age, otherwise he would be using that bell mouth shaped pants got it? about u dont like certain points in the movie.
its all righ .u cant please greeks and troys right.
but i disagree with most of ur speeching, and the web stuff i abhorn any commentary, cos i wished if they put the web cartridge over,on his hands apearing like ben reily spidey costume, shining . and if so that they made a new uniform,
but he wanted the original, and since his obtained spider abilities why not the webbing,
and mr parker,although i may look like rude. i dont want no commentary about the WHERE the web should be coming from theres no sense in aplying real life into fantasy words.
Mr Parker instead of insulting people (I bet $100 he's going to through a fit at me for this post) why don't you argue thier opinions respectfully instead of saying that what they're posting is rubbish and crap? you've made your opinions now let them make thiers. I enjoy this thread so cut out the name-calling or it will be closed!
Originally posted by BlackC@t
Mr Parker instead of insulting people (I bet $100 he's going to through a fit at me for this post) why don't you argue thier opinions respectfully instead of saying that what they're posting is rubbish and crap? you've made your opinions now let them make thiers. I enjoy this thread so cut out the name-calling or it will be closed!
Mr Parker one of the most polite and intelligent peole here dont insult him.
( I'm not taking any side here,this is my opinion)
First,what bakerboy said was his review,his opinion.Not everybody thinks alike you know.
Second,I have to say the movie was pretty good.It had a few bad points.They didn't stick to the comics,I expected that.They wanted to grab the attention of children more than anything else(I hate to say this but that's how they more most of their money.I could explain more about this,but I know most of you don't want to heard it.)
Alfred Molina,who play Doc Ock.They made a great choice.He was one of the best to play Doc Ock.His costume was cool,now a heard someone said they could of done better.Well,your right they probably could have,but not a lab coat.They wanted something more dark.It just wouldn't look right(Molina in a white lab coat).Now the tentacles talking to him was....odd and not in the comics.But again they didn't want to really copy the comics,now did they.
Kirsten Dunst,she made a good Mary Jane.I also heard there was something wrong with the color of her hair.Well,people make mistakes,we're only human.Besides her hair looks red enough to us.Anymore red and it might look unnatural.
I'm not going to talk about Tobey Maguire,because he played it prefect.
And third,one of the oddest things they did in the movie was having Peter lose his powers.Well,the reason was,..although it may sound stupid.., is so that he could figure out and appreciate who he is.Also, to accept the responsibility that was placed into his hands..
Okay,that's all for now
Originally posted by Spiderman_RJ
What? what outragious peter always developed sth like the web shooter since first grade, thats why he already had their sketch made, he just made or adapted it to the web ( wherever it comes) knowledge
Dude, go read the first issue of Spider-Man, the Amazing Fantasy one.
He plucks the webshooters out of nowhere, he just makes them, there and then. We are never told how or where he got them from. They just were there. The movies at least kept in line with this part of the comic - they kept it just as simple.
Later, they realised he should explain it a bit better, and so we found out he was conveniently devising similar technology before he was bitten - yet another contrivance for the comics to hang their head in shame for. There's nothing worse than for comic book writers to "make it up as they go" - it has a snowball effect and ends up becoming standard to do this, and can cause plotholes.
Originally posted by Robo-Chocobo
soooo wait...you hate the batman movies, and the spiderman movies...let me guess, you dislike the incredible hulk because its so boring, and confusing, and you hate daredevil because it has ben in it.and what the crap was that about childish 7 of your(extremely spam tastic) post ago.
okay people look here, the ULTIMATE hypocrisy
I was just saying your first post to bakerboy on the first page to him was childish,but that last post I addressed you on you were mature unlike carnage who I am now ignoring.,if you can address me like you did in THAT post and like you are now then like I said,this can be a fun discussion.I'll just ignore that ULTIMATE hypocrisy remark because you were confused there.The first post of yours to bakerboy on the first page was childish-theres no getting around that,but your other posts since then have been mature.I am willing to be mature enough to forget about the first post of yours to bakerboy and continue this discussion and put it behind in the past are you willing to do the same?
yes I havent seen manspider 2 yet but I have seen enough evidence from the trailer to know its going to suck.Sometimes you CAN get enough evidence from the trailers to know its going to suck you know? I remember when the first one came out all I heard was the same old crap that I could not bash the film until I had seen it which was complete nonsense because I had seen enough evidence from the trailers to know it would suck.same here.and from what all bakerboy said in his review,thats enough evidence for me to know the 2nd one will suck as well. and to answer your question on why I did not see the first manspider movie till it came out on cable,yeah I did not go to the theater because Im not going to pay money to see manspider on the screen,spider-man I WILL pay money to see on the screen,but not for man-spider. I knew wuite a few co workers that were spidey fans at my old job back them who felt the same way a dn also waited till it came out on cable to see. oh by the way,I did not mean to make it look like you said those things that I just said,,thats childish when people do that typing in things that they didnt say,so my apologies for that.that happened by accident,I did not realise thats what would happen,my bad.
by the way,yes I hated the batman movies because they were incredibly voring and not at all loyal to the comicbook,MICHAEL keaton was a horrible choice for batman/bruce wayne because eh didnt even come close to fitting the role,and they turned him inot a cowardly killer,it was more like a james bond move than a batman movie.and yes I hated the hulk movie as well,that movie was just plain awful,however I loved the hulk tv show with bill bixby,he is my favorite actor of all time and actually I loved daredevil,I thought it was great film to answer your questions.how can you say very mature then say im childish...
and did you say that you havent even SEEN spiderman2 yet, but here you are posting on a thread about it....omg..this guys whack...
i mean, simply refusing to even see a movie simply because you heard this or read that, is ludicrous. your saying you didnt even go see Spiderman until it came out on cable...why is that...did his lack of web shooters make you un happy that much?
Originally posted by Mr Parker
Well the thing is sony never even wanted the chemical mechs in the first place,they didnt even try to make it work which is just plain lazy film making.They said before the filming even began that organics were going to be in the film,meaning they just wanted to make their own little version. 😠
Well damn, that's just stupid. They should've at least tried.
I don't care enough about anything besides the comic books themselves to really care though. Sometimes(ok, lots of times) I'm in the mood to argue though, and that's usually why I'll debate someone.
First of all, i want to say thanks to my friend Mr Parker , one of the true spiderman fans, of help me in his thread, thank you my friend. Your help is always appreciated.
Second of all, i did a mistake in one of my posts. I didnt want to say that i want a movie 100% loyal to the comics. I wanted to say that i dont want a movie 100% the same as in the comics, because it would be impossible and absurd. Cinema and comics are two different mediums and is impossible to trasladate 100% one thing to the other, beasides that it would be very boring. I want a movie who respects the characters and the story with in a new story fresh and with good and ideas, but without unnecesary changes and sam raimi and sonny has made in the man spider movies.
And once again,in the comics , peter parker is a genious, who is capable of the creation of the web shooters. In the movie , he is only a guy who is clever and good in science. That is the main difference. The genious of Peter isnt in those stupid movies. Beasides his capacity of superation, with the creation of the web shooters, peter shows how he is capable of superate all the difficults, so he complete his powers with the web shooters. beasides when is run out of the fluid and has to fight the villains with his intelligence and the other powers, that is his capacity of superation. And those things arent in the movie.
The loss of powers is a stupid thing, as is doc ock being a nice guy. That is just a bad script with lack if imagination.
And for the guy who has said that i was only critizing the movie for not being loyal with the comics, ill said that it is totally false. Because i have said in my review that the movie, althought the story and the script is better than the first one, is just a bad movie. The first one was a big crap, the second one is less crap but still crap. Just a mediocre movie, for that reason i always laugh my ass when some people here and in other forums is posting" best movie ever", " best sequel ever" or " best comic movie ever". To say that the man spider 2 is the best movie on cinema story is just an insult and a taunt to the cinema, the comic and the bad taste. Plain and simple.
Okay for now on instead of addressing each post individually,I will now address everybody in one post like bakerboy was doing.
Black Cat -obviously you did not read how the other posters responded to bakerboy in his first post because if you had,you would have noticed THEY were insulting bakerboy and were the ones posting rubbish and crap and when I came on and pointed out to them how childish they were,I was insulted for no reason.Just look at how carnage spoke to me using profanity in his posts.Because of his behaviour I now have him on ignore.and as you can see,I find Robo-chocobo and spiderman r.j being mature in their posts so since they have discussed this with me in mature fashion,I am willing to continue this discussion with them unlike I will with carnage.
R.J.- No offence but I really couldnt understand anything you were saying to me in your post so I didnt find anything you said to me rude at all.
Mr Zero-Right now I have to go so I will address you another time since unlike your first post to bakerboy on page one,you are being mature now.
Swords Point-thank you for the kind words. 🙂