Marvel Universe Hierarchy

Originally posted by Accel
I wouldn't say smoked. The fight ended in a double knock-out. Bill just woke up first because he was revived by the heat of the environment they fought in.

Does that justify easily getting ko'ed in the above issue mentioned?

Originally posted by King Kandy
Do you think I'm lying? I could give you the issue names numbers.

Not bull on you, but bull on the comic. As on this board we call it PIS (plot induced stupidity) or CIS (character induced stupidity)

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Not bull on you, but bull on the comic. As on this board we call it PIS (plot induced stupidity) or CIS (character induced stupidity)

Hierarcchy is pretty inaccurate to be honest, how long did it take you to write this up?....5-10 minutes?

Originally posted by King Kandy
1. TOAA
2. True beyonders/pre retcon Beyonder
3. The brothers
4. Entity
5. THOTU
6. Living tribunal
7. Infinity gauntlet
8. Molecule man (pre retcon)
9. Cosmic egg
10. Infinites/entropy
11. The Rot/Phoenix (full power)
12. Death/Oblivion
13. Eternity/Infinity/Galactus (full power)
14. Franklin Richards (full power)/ego (full power)
15. Beyonder (post retcon) Kubic/Shaper of worlds/molecule man/(post retcon)
16. Galactus (normal)/star gem
17. Chaos/Order/Abraxas
18. Onslaught
19. Cosmic cubes
20. Ego (normal)
21. Celestials (why would they be stronger then Chaos/Order?)
22. Stranger
23. Chronos
24. Elders
25. Eon/Epoch/Phoenix (normal)
26. Inbetweener
27. Anthromorphio
28. Vishanti/shuma gorath
29. Love/hate
30. Watchers
31. Dorrmamu
32. Cytterok
33. Walker
34. Set
35. Genis-vell(insane)
36. Demiurge
37. Tyrant/skyfathers/Mephisto/Satan/insane galactus
38. Blackheart/Mephista/Malevolence/Zarathos
39. Thanos(after revival)/dr. Strange
40. Morg (full power)
41. Deathurge
42. Atum
43. Magus (with afro)
44. thanos(before revival)
45. Thor
46. Titans
47. Genis-vell(sane)
48. Annihalis/superskrull (full power)
49. Heralds of Galactus (why would they be different powers?)/Drax the destroyer
50. Beta ray bill/Hercules
51. Captain marvel/superskrull
52. Galaxy master/infinity gems (individual)/Apocalypse
53. Maestro/war hulk
54. Abomination/neos/horsemen of the Apocalypse
55. Hulk
56. Magus (with ponytail)/warlock
57. Namor (underwater)/vision (full power)

Originally posted by Maestro
Hierarcchy is pretty inaccurate to be honest, how long did it take you to write this up?....5-10 minutes?

Touched up a couple of things.

1. TOAA
2. True Beyonders/Pre-Retcon Beyonder
3. The brothers
4. Pre-Retcon Molecule man.
5. Entity
6. THOTU
7. Living tribunal
8. Infinity gauntlet
9. Cosmic egg
10. Infinites/entropy
11. The Rot/Phoenix (full power)
12. Death/Oblivion
13. Eternity/Infinity/Galactus (full power)
14. Franklin Richards (full power)/ego (full power)
15. Beyonder (post retcon) Kubic/Shaper of worlds/molecule man/(post retcon)
16. Galactus (normal)/star gem
17. Chaos/Order/Abraxas
18. Onslaught
19. Cosmic cubes
20. Ego (normal)
21. Celestials (why would they be stronger then Chaos/Order?)
22. Stranger
23. Chronos
24. Elders
25. Eon/Epoch/Phoenix (normal)
26. Inbetweener
27. Anthromorphio
28. Vishanti/shuma gorath
29. Love/hate
30. Dorrmamu
31. Cytterok
32. Watchers
33. Walker
34. Set
35. Genis-vell(insane)
36. Demiurge
37. Tyrant/skyfathers/Mephisto/Satan/insane galactus
38. Blackheart/Mephista/Malevolence/Zarathos
39. Thanos(after revival)/dr. Strange
40. Morg (full power)
41. Deathurge
42. Atum
43. Magus (with afro)
44. Thanos(before revival)
45. Thor
46. Beta-Ray Bill
47. Maestro/War Hulk
48. Titans
49. Annihalis
50. Heralds of Galactus (why would they be different powers?)/Drax the destroyer
51. Hercules/ Genis-vell(sane)
52. Captain marvel/superskrull
53. Galaxy master/infinity gems (individual)/Apocalypse
54. Abomination/neos/horsemen of the Apocalypse
55. Hulk
56. Magus (with ponytail)/warlock
57. Namor (underwater)/vision (full power)

Originally posted by King Kandy
Touched up a couple of things.

1. TOAA
2. True Beyonders/Pre-Retcon Beyonder
3. The brothers
4. Pre-Retcon Molecule man.
5. Entity
6. THOTU
7. Living tribunal
8. Infinity gauntlet
9. Cosmic egg
10. Infinites/entropy
11. The Rot/Phoenix (full power)
12. Death/Oblivion
13. Eternity/Infinity/Galactus (full power)
14. Franklin Richards (full power)/ego (full power)
15. Beyonder (post retcon) Kubic/Shaper of worlds/molecule man/(post retcon)
16. Galactus (normal)/star gem
17. Chaos/Order/Abraxas
18. Onslaught
19. Cosmic cubes
20. Ego (normal)
21. Celestials (why would they be stronger then Chaos/Order?)
22. Stranger
23. Chronos
24. Elders
25. Eon/Epoch/Phoenix (normal)
26. Inbetweener
27. Anthromorphio
28. Vishanti/shuma gorath
29. Love/hate
30. Dorrmamu
31. Cytterok
32. Watchers
33. Walker
34. Set
35. Genis-vell(insane)
36. Demiurge
37. Tyrant/skyfathers/Mephisto/Satan/insane galactus
38. Blackheart/Mephista/Malevolence/Zarathos
39. Thanos(after revival)/dr. Strange
40. Morg (full power)
41. Deathurge
42. Atum
43. Magus (with afro)
44. Thanos(before revival)
45. Thor
46. Beta-Ray Bill
47. Maestro/War Hulk
48. Titans
49. Annihalis
50. Heralds of Galactus (why would they be different powers?)/Drax the destroyer
51. Hercules/ Genis-vell(sane)
52. Captain marvel/superskrull
53. Galaxy master/infinity gems (individual)/Apocalypse
54. Abomination/neos/horsemen of the Apocalypse
55. Hulk
56. Magus (with ponytail)/warlock
57. Namor (underwater)/vision (full power)

I meant to put him right bellow beyonder. I messed up.. I messed up.

Oh my god, with thing's this poweful I always wonder: Does it really matter? because the cosmics of that strength rarely ever get involved in battles and im sure they dont really care lol 😕

But they do sometimes get involved in battle. That's what we have to base it on.

Originally posted by King Kandy
How do you identify this incident as PIS, and the other one as not?

Because stated multiple times they are equal, and even before BRB gained the Stormbreaker he beat Thor.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Because stated multiple times they are equal, and even before BRB gained the Stormbreaker he beat Thor.

Originally posted by King Kandy
This was after he gott the stormbreaker.

I know I'm saying it's PIS, as he beat him before he even got it and Odin and the other Asgardians stated they were equal. So no way could Thor just stomp on BRB that easily.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
I know I'm saying it's PIS, as he beat him before he even got it and Odin and the other Asgardians stated they were equal. So no way could Thor just stomp on BRB that easily.

Beak kicks ass! 😊

Originally posted by King Kandy
Do you mean Mane's list, or mine?

Yours. Mane's is pretty decent but not perfect. Let me point out a few things with your list.

-Celestials aren't below any cube beings, let alone cosmic cubes.
-The brothers are retconned-not even canon like most crossovers.
-Magus/Warlock above Hulk-there both high herald.
-Shuma Gorath=Vishanti....something wrong here...
-Insane Galactus, Galactus on his time of the month.....???(Plus he's too low)
-Demiurge, if thats atum the godeater he's too low, you've put set above him, when he beat set,chton and every demon on Earth in one instance=Cube level, maybe more.
-Abraxas too low

Since you just tweaked your hiearchy a bit, its getting better, but those are a few improvements if you want to make them.

I don't think Magus's weakened form or Warlock are above Hulk. They're at most equal.

Insane Galactus Isn't very powerful. He 100% deserves his current place in the Hierarchy.

But I added your other suggestions.

I also lowered Entity's place a bit.

1. TOAA
2. True Beyonders/Pre-Retcon Beyonder
3. The brothers
4. Pre-Retcon Molecule man.
5. THOTU
6. Living tribunal
7. Entity
8. Infinity gauntlet
9. Cosmic egg
10. Infinites/entropy
11. The Rot/Phoenix (full power)
12. Death/Oblivion
13. Eternity/Infinity/Galactus (full power)/Abraxas
14. Franklin Richards (full power)/ego (full power)
15. Beyonder (post retcon) Kubic/Shaper of worlds/molecule man/(post retcon)
16. Galactus (normal)/star gem
17. Chaos/Order
18. Onslaught
19. Ego (normal)
20. Celestials (why would they be stronger then Chaos/Order?)
21. Stranger/ Cosmic cubes
22. Chronos
23. Elders
24. Eon/Epoch/Phoenix (normal)
25. Demiurge
26. Inbetweener
27. Anthromorphio
28. Vishanti
29. Love/hate
30. Shuma Gorath
31. Dorrmamu
32. Cytterok
33. Watchers
34. Walker
35. Set
36. Genis-vell(insane)
37. Tyrant/skyfathers/Mephisto/Satan/insane galactus
38. Blackheart/Mephista/Malevolence/Zarathos
39. Thanos(after revival)/Dr. Strange
40. Morg (full power)
41. Deathurge
42. Atum
43. Magus (with afro)
44. Thanos(before revival)
45. Thor
46. Beta-Ray Bill
47. Maestro/War Hulk
48. Titans
49. Annihalis
50. Heralds of Galactus (why would they be different powers?)/Drax the destroyer
51. Hercules/ Genis-vell(sane)
52. Captain marvel/superskrull
53. Galaxy master/infinity gems (individual)/Apocalypse
54. Abomination/neos/horsemen of the Apocalypse
55. Hulk
56. Magus (with ponytail)/warlock
57. Namor (underwater)/vision (full power)

You need to give Chaos/Order a separate place below Galactus/Eternity/Infinity, and put the Vishanti higher as they are a collective of 3 very powerful beings.

Warlock is above Hulk, he has so many ways of defeating him. Not to sure about weakened magus, does he even need a place?

I did give Chaos and order a seperate spot.

Weakened Magus has exactly equal power to Warlock (Minus soul gem)

Originally posted by King Kandy
I did give Chaos and order a seperate spot.

Weakened Magus has exactly equal power to Warlock (Minus soul gem)

Chaos/Order need to be above Franklin (full potential), but be below Galactus/eternity etc IMO