wow c-master you talk about knowing comics are not real then you talk about logic in them. you can not have a locial debate on them since writers change their strength levels all the time. you seem to contradict yourself alot and come off bad.
my logic to venom beating juggernaut is simple. he is strong enough to because the writers have made him that way many times in the past. that may not go along with the bio or make sense but it is a comic and that how so many have written him. Also he did beat juggy twice before. Last the costume can take control of him because both Thor and SS have been taken over in the past and they are far more powerful then Juggy. His shield means nothing because the costume is able to pass it by going to the molecule level like is has in the past. ]
Is that enough logic for you because if it is not then you don't know what logic means.
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Tha C says"Look stupid, noone is saying realism we are saying your arguments are very stupid, and are biased.
Juggernaut is INVURNERABLE, and you are saying venom should hurt him, because of events.
You don't even know what pis is, and you look like a fanboy."
I don't think I ever said that....I'd like him to quote me on that one... juggy's invulnerable to everything but mental attacks and majic... venom has one of those at his disposal...I said he has a small chance to win because of that, I also said it's unlikely and that he would most likely lose the fight... how the co....i mean...the "C" masta got "venom wins...I'm a fanboy" from that I have no idea.... 🤨
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
do you ever contribute to a debate, he is making cheap comments, and if you look 3 pages back, you'd see they started it.Now shoo if you have nothing to say. 🙂
Like the time a random guy came in and call the thread stupid, and you were defending him in the game forum, just because ?
Originally posted by jinzin
I don't think I ever said that....I'd like him to quote me on that one... juggy's invulnerable to everything but mental attacks and majic... venom has one of those at his disposal...I said he has a small chance to win because of that, I also said it's unlikely and that he would most likely lose the fight... how the co....i mean...the "C" masta got "venom wins...I'm a fanboy" from that I have no idea.... 🤨
actually lokking back I'm not even entirely sure I disagreed with him... I just pointed out that he doesn't read that many comics (if any at all) and that realizm has little to do with a comic book hero debate..then he went into defense mode.....pffffft........
IMO it seems kinda childish to call me stupid for that...
Originally posted by TwisterGameXno stupid, he wasn't he said the topic was pointless because of the subject matter.
Like the time a random guy came in and call the thread stupid, and you were defending him in the game forum, just because ?
Why am I arguing with you, you haven't contributied anything compared to what I have here, you don't make any good points, and you've only persisted in annoying people here who have put their time in this forum.
You try to interfere with things that have nothing to do with you, and now are swinging off jinzin's nuts.
You are useless as usual.
The debate I was in before you arrived, thats what you seem to forget, you are a newb and a fanboy.
You don't know what ive done or where I've been.
Lets keep it that way.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
no stupid, he wasn't he said the topic was pointless because of the subject matter.Why am I arguing with you, you haven't contributied anything compared to what I have here, you don't make any good points, and you've only persisted in annoying people here who have put their time in this forum.
You try to interfere with things that have nothing to do with you, and now are swinging off jinzin's nuts.
You are useless as usual.
The debate I was in before you arrived, thats what you seem to forget, you are a newb and a fanboy.
You don't know what ive done or where I've been.
Lets keep it that way.
You replied to everysingle thing I say, when nothing was even remotly close, about talking about you.....
*sigh*
Why do I waste my time with you? It is quite obvious that you are a fanboy of the highest degree, and won't listen to any reasoning whatsoever.
Do you see the majority of the good debators around here aren't listening to you, just a bunch of fanboys.
I thought I owned your sorry ass enough yesterday, but apparently I didn't.
Originally posted by Jvenom
wow c-master you talk about knowing comics are not real then you talk about logic in them.
What you seem not to understand, grasp, or rather not accept, is that logic and debating go hand in hand. You cannot have a debate without logic.
I take it you don't even know what logic is.
So let me help you boy...
The study of the principles of reasoning, especially of the structure of propositions as distinguished from their content and of method and validity in deductive reasoning.
A system of reasoning: Aristotle's logic.
A mode of reasoning: By that logic, we should sell the company tomorrow.
The formal, guiding principles of a discipline, school, or science.
Valid reasoning: Your paper lacks the logic to prove your thesis.
The relationship between elements and between an element and the whole in a set of objects, individuals, principles, or events: There's a certain logic to the motion of rush-hour traffic.
Computer Science.
The nonarithmetic operations performed by a computer, such as sorting, comparing, and matching, that involve yes-no decisions.
Computer circuitry.
Graphic representation of computer circuitry.
For simpler terms, logic is the reasoning the blender.
Its a common misconception for fools to assume logic=real.
its reasoning.
Hulk who is INFINITELY stronger than venom, cannot hurt juggernaut, but Venom can?
Originally posted by Jvenom
you can not have a locial debate on them since writers change their strength levels all the time.
Originally posted by Jvenom
you seem to contradict yourself alot and come off bad.
Originally posted by Jvenom
my logic to venom beating juggernaut is simple.
CONTRADICTION!!!
What is a contradiction you ask?
To assert or express the opposite of (a statement).
To deny the statement of. See Synonyms at deny.
To be contrary to; be inconsistent with.
v. intr.
To utter a contradictory statement.
I thought there was no logic to debates, talk about contradiction.
Guess your argument is once again, out of the water.. 😆
Originally posted by Jvenom
he is strong enough to because the writers have made him that way many times in the past.
Take a good look at these rulses boy, and understand them, because, like twister, you seem to have problems with reading comprehension.
[/i]No Mentioning Events of PIS
Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.
Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates.
No SvFL
Spiderman vs. Firelord, or SvFL, is a shorthand that refers to any time when a character performs a feat that their powers and skills should be blatantly insufficient for, and is not repeated or is rarely repeated again relative to the character's overall established career, as well as the character's opponents' established showings. In statistical terms, it is an outlier, something that is radically beyond the character's established capabilities. For example, Spiderman defeating a herald of Galactus is a case of the SvFL exemption; however, Batman being able to sneak up on Superman is not because he has done so frequently under different writers.
For standard debates, feats considered to fall under the SvFL exemption are not valid. Likewise, examples of writing which go against firmly set canon are also ignored. For example, in Larry Hama's run of Batman and Grell's run of Iron Man, both characters were out of character and did things very much against established canon; therefore those runs are disregarded.[/i]
Seeing as you don't know the rules, being a poor debator that you are, that means NO SHIT WRITING!!!!!
Can you logically say spiderman beat firelord, oh wait, you already did. 😆
Originally posted by Jvenom
that may not go along with the bio of him but that is how so many have written him.
Listen once again, bio's aren't my point this isn't within the pages of a comic book.
This is a forum in which pis/cis don't apply, you need to stop amping lightweights beyond their abilities.
Thor's best efforts, short of a godblast, haven't done anything to juggs, please read other comics besides venom.
Other characters have a history too.
Originally posted by Jvenom
Also he did beat juggy twice before.
Venom the madness, and a plot device, which don't apply here, according to the rules once more.
What is a plot device?
A plot device is a person or an object introduced to a story to affect or advance the plot. In the hands of a skilled writer, the reader or viewer will not notice that the device is a construction of the author—it will seem to follow naturally from the setting or characters in the story. A poorly-written story, on the other hand, may have such awkward or contrived plot devices that the reader has serious trouble maintaining suspension of disbelief; indeed, the devices may even leave plot holes..
Take your face out of venom's ass for two seconds and you'd understand that noone good agree's with you, christ you are a tool.
Originally posted by Jvenom
Last the costume can take control of him because both Thor and SS have been taken over in the past and they are far more powerful then Juggy.
Cosmic level beings, gods, etc.
You really are a fanboy, venom is on spiderman's level.
But since you believe everything you read...
A plot device is a person or an object introduced to a story to affect or advance the plot. In the hands of a skilled writer, the reader or viewer will not notice that the device is a construction of the author—it will seem to follow naturally from the setting or characters in the story. A poorly-written story, on the other hand, may have such awkward or contrived plot devices that the reader has serious trouble maintaining suspension of disbelief; indeed, the devices may even leave plot holes..
Originally posted by Jvenom
His shield means nothing because the costume is able to pass it by going to the molecule level like is has in the past.
His shield means nothing?
His shield has deflected some of the strongest attacks in comic continuity.
What is his symbiote going to do to juggernaut.
Nothing, squat, zip.
Originally posted by Jvenom
Is that enough logic for you because if it is not then you don't know what logic means.
No, YOU don't know what logic is, much less how to use it, you are a fanboy, who is probably around 13 years old.
Because your logic SUCKED...
I already know you are going to get mad and waste my time with a stupid little post, and go ahead.
You don't know what logic is, because it doesn't work well with you.
You think venom beats superman.
Venom is weak to fire, superman's heat vision is hotter than the sun, and goes light speed.
So please, next time before you reply, read comics BESIDES venom.
Jesus. This place has gone to the dogs.
Originally posted by JvenomI'm making you look bad, because you wanted to start shit yesterday.
c-master you make yourself look bad
Originally posted by jinzin
it's really all a matter of class and integrity... no need to insult members so frequently from what I've heard at least..
This coming from you and Jvenom, who said I shot babies overseas, please.
Originally posted by TwisterGameXThen why are you here, hypocrite, to start shit?
....I thought we were over this....
You can't be over it, because you followed me around to instigate and start shit, because you are bitter.
Thats why you keep taking me off ignore to respond.
Pitiful.
you don't know anything, when I came people said stuff about my race and military status.
You 3 are all bitter because I've made you look bad in a debate.
Originally posted by TwisterGameX
You replied to everysingle thing I say, when nothing was even remotly close, about talking about you.....
No stupid, I replied ONCE, before then you werent even on this forum.
You keep following me around do you have a crush or something, why does everyone around here start fights?
You are going to just respond to this anyways, so why do I bother.
And you quoted my post for jinzin to see, I thought you didn't like that.
Have a lolly.
How are you expected for some one, to even listen to you when you reply, so rudely. If you run in a race, and the other person tied with you, but you see it as you one, then go call the guy you are racing dumb, and how you teared his sorry ass, and go tell all your friends about it, and speak about it everyday, then how do you want people to react ?