But saying According to Matt....and so on would be like 4 of us, standing in front of a burning building and each of us describe according to what we saw...we were all there, but we seen things that eachother may not have seen or maybe seen different. and just cuz we don't explain it the same way doesn't mean that one of us lying.
Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
But saying According to Matt....and so on would be like 4 of us, standing in front of a burning building and each of us describe according to what we saw...we were all there, but we seen things that eachother may not have seen or maybe seen different. and just cuz we don't explain it the same way doesn't mean that one of us lying.
That is a good analogy albeit a simple one.
If there were 4 accounts, it would be a give a better picture of what actually happened.
Unless of course,if there are contradictions.
And there are contradictions in the 4 Gospels.
Hence, only facts that are consistent throughout the 4 gospels can safely be described as accurate.
All four authors of the Gosples had their own beliefs that shaped their writing.
We're talking much more than about a burning building here.
If I was to dedicate my life putting faith into something, I have the right to want it to be as accurate as possible.Wouldn't you?
There's a website I'd like to show you that talks about the contradictions. But I can put up the link cause I'm new to this forum.
So I'll just quote one example:
" Luke's author was clearly sympathetic to the poor and outcast; he includes material that advances this view, which is only found in Luke, e.g., the woes against the wealthy (6:24,25), the story of Lazarus and the Rich Man (Luke 16). In Matt 5:3,6, Jesus says "Blessed are the poor in spirit....Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness..." (Matt 5:3,6) but in Luke this is "Blessed are you poor....Blessed are you that hunger now..." (6:20,21). Here, one of the evangelists has deliberately changed the wording to suit either his spiritual theology (Matt) or his social theology (Luke)."
This is just one contradiction.
Here's the scriptures that you listed:
Luke 6:21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
Luke 6:23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
Luke 6:24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
Luke 6:25 Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.
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Mat 5:3 Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:4 Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Mat 5:5 Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Mat 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
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I'm really not gettig what you're saying, they won't say the exact same thing, cuz they are diff people, they view things diff, just as you and I would, if we seen the exact same thing. But it means the same.
Right click and copy?
I right clicked on it but there was no copy.
Sorry bout this..maybe I'm doing it wrong.
Yeah the example I quote just showed a difference in narration.
But there are other contradicitons.
I'm not trying to denounce the Gospels or anything.
Just trying to bring forward my point of view.
NP i'm just trying to understand what you're saying hun.
Up in the address part,(like: www.yahoo.com) Righ click and it shld highlight it & bring down a list, click on copy, then in this box, right click & click paste
I tried that. Still didn't work 🙁
I understand that the four gospels are from different perspectives.
I'm just wondering why there can't be only ONE.
Like the Hadith of Muhammad.
It was written by his Companions, many writers but one book.
And it was done on Muhammad's "supervision" and there were even a wording system they followed to ensure accuracy.
And what's with the "hun"? Haha.
Originally posted by carnager
But I think it is my prerogative to question which one of these Gospels is the best representation of the word of Jesus.
I dont see how it really matters. The main point is, they r all about Jesus. I understand what you're saying but to me, i dont find that it really matters. *shrugs* 😉
yeah there, whats your point there?my point is that a lot of "gospels" got excluded cause they didnt agree with the view the then "leaders" of the churches viewed the whole thing. Actually most of them got destroyed cause they were consider heresy.
those 4 gospels will be slightly different because each person saw it from a slightly different perspective.
The writers are the disciples of Jesus and so have to be taken seriously, no doubt.not entirely correct they aint exactly sure of who wrote them, even if two of the gospels name their writer it still is a chance that the authors were actually anonymus
Well, whoever wrote them, did so to spread the word of Jesus.
And MorningStar, yes I know they're all about Jesus.
My point is how much have they been altered or edited.
No matter how slight these alterations and interpretation errors are.
I still find myself questioning their credibility.
It may not matter to you as but it does to me.