Originally posted by Tptmanno1
You can't use the Bible for proof that God exists. If I don't believe in God than the Bible becomes fiction.
Its like trying to prove that Harry Potter exists using the Harry Potter books. Just because it lists real places and events that Could have occured. Death of Herod, Slaves escaping Egypt. Doesn't make it true!About the tounges thingy. First there is no proof of any other language, the Bible simeply states "Tounges" This could be interpreted as languages but it could easily mean accents or some other mistranslation.
And Even if it was tounges, there is no proof that anyone knew any other languages prior.
One more thing, Most languages in that area are either Latin, Aribic or a mix, As Fire or Yerss will tell you, if you know one latin based language, it is very easy to pick up another one.
Eg. if you know Spanish, you could easily interprete French or Italian.About the miracals, they are vague while sounding specific. If you want to, you can see all of them anywhere you want.
Let me ask you a question. Do you belive the Noah and the Arc story?
That god created a huge flood and killed all of the bad people keeping one man and his family to re-popuate the earth?Answer that before reading on.
Did you know that that story is based on an ancient mesopotamian fable? Written 5000 years before Judiasm even existed! If thats wrong and stolen from another civilization, whats preventing the rest of it to be false.
And what about the other people who believe as strang as you do in their religion? The ones who have felt the presence of their God just as much as you do. What makes them so wrong and you so damn correct? Why are you better than them if thery believe in it exactly as much or more than you do? How do you know that its accually the Hindu Gods that exist instead of the Christian one. Hinduism has been around much much longer and has more followers and more devotees who have felt the presence of their god as much as you? How long have they been wrong, allways, or just since Christianity has existed? and what about before Judiasm? (because most people call Christianity and extension of Judaism, because it is.) Was there no God or what? What was the correct religion before Judiasm?
Answer these questions if you can. Until you do I refuse to accept any of your so called "proof".
And if you refuse, your cowardice has shown that your religion is false when put under scrutiny, and I win.
All right here,
If you notice I've asked these questions in all of teh God threads and never got an answer.
cowards.
Originally posted by Tptmanno1🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 😉 😉 😉
You can't use the Bible for proof that God exists. If I don't believe in God than the Bible becomes fiction.
Its like trying to prove that Harry Potter exists using the Harry Potter books. Just because it lists real places and events that Could have occured. Death of Herod, Slaves escaping Egypt. Doesn't make it true!About the tounges thingy. First there is no proof of any other language, the Bible simeply states "Tounges" This could be interpreted as languages but it could easily mean accents or some other mistranslation.
And Even if it was tounges, there is no proof that anyone knew any other languages prior.
One more thing, Most languages in that area are either Latin, Aribic or a mix, As Fire or Yerss will tell you, if you know one latin based language, it is very easy to pick up another one.
Eg. if you know Spanish, you could easily interprete French or Italian.About the miracals, they are vague while sounding specific. If you want to, you can see all of them anywhere you want.
Let me ask you a question. Do you belive the Noah and the Arc story?
That god created a huge flood and killed all of the bad people keeping one man and his family to re-popuate the earth?Answer that before reading on.
TRue, the bible will not show YOU proof that God does exist, cuz you don't believe in the bible.
Yes, there is proof of tongues, its in Churches all across the world. Thats why i said, for YOU or anyone else to believe that YOU will need to see it or hear it. And you're telling me that a 10 yr old, or an adult that has NEVER EVER spoke anyother language just starting speaking in other tongues, that they just picked it up?? oh come on, you're kidding me right?About Noah, we've already went on and on about Noah, so scroll to other post plz then if you want to ask questions plz do.
Did you know that that story is based on an ancient mesopotamian fable? Written 5000 years before Judiasm even existed! If thats wrong and stolen from another civilization, whats preventing the rest of it to be false.
And what about the other people who believe as strang as you do in their religion? The ones who have felt the presence of their God just as much as you do. What makes them so wrong and you so damn correct? Why are you better than them if thery believe in it exactly as much or more than you do? How do you know that its accually the Hindu Gods that exist instead of the Christian one. Hinduism has been around much much longer and has more followers and more devotees who have felt the presence of their god as much as you? How long have they been wrong, allways, or just since Christianity has existed? and what about before Judiasm? (because most people call Christianity and extension of Judaism, because it is.) Was there no God or what? What was the correct religion before Judiasm?
Answer these questions if you can. Until you do I refuse to accept any of your so called "proof".
And if you refuse, your cowardice has shown that your religion is false when put under scrutiny, and I win.
Originally posted by Tptmanno1
You can't use the Bible for proof that God exists. If I don't believe in God than the Bible becomes fiction.
Its like trying to prove that Harry Potter exists using the Harry Potter books. Just because it lists real places and events that Could have occured. Death of Herod, Slaves escaping Egypt. Doesn't make it true!About the tounges thingy. First there is no proof of any other language, the Bible simeply states "Tounges" This could be interpreted as languages but it could easily mean accents or some other mistranslation.
And Even if it was tounges, there is no proof that anyone knew any other languages prior.
One more thing, Most languages in that area are either Latin, Aribic or a mix, As Fire or Yerss will tell you, if you know one latin based language, it is very easy to pick up another one.
Eg. if you know Spanish, you could easily interprete French or Italian.About the miracals, they are vague while sounding specific. If you want to, you can see all of them anywhere you want.
Let me ask you a question. Do you belive the Noah and the Arc story?
That god created a huge flood and killed all of the bad people keeping one man and his family to re-popuate the earth?Answer that before reading on.
Did you know that that story is based on an ancient mesopotamian fable? Written 5000 years before Judiasm even existed! If thats wrong and stolen from another civilization, whats preventing the rest of it to be false.
And what about the other people who believe as strang as you do in their religion? The ones who have felt the presence of their God just as much as you do. What makes them so wrong and you so damn correct? Why are you better than them if thery believe in it exactly as much or more than you do? How do you know that its accually the Hindu Gods that exist instead of the Christian one. Hinduism has been around much much longer and has more followers and more devotees who have felt the presence of their god as much as you? How long have they been wrong, allways, or just since Christianity has existed? and what about before Judiasm? (because most people call Christianity and extension of Judaism, because it is.) Was there no God or what? What was the correct religion before Judiasm?
Answer these questions if you can. Until you do I refuse to accept any of your so called "proof".
And if you refuse, your cowardice has shown that your religion is false when put under scrutiny, and I win.
Trus the bible will not show YOU proof, since you don't believe in the bible.
About tongues, yes there is proof it's in chruches all around the world. Thats the reason I said for YOU or anyone else, that don't believe YOU can attend a church and see for YOURSELF. And you're saying that a 10 yr old or and adult even thats NEVER EVER spoke or heard that language before suddenly out of no where speaks it? oh come one, you're kidding me right?? They don't know what they are saying, they are(1) praying to God in an unknown tongue (2)messages are given in tongues & someone Interpets it No one knows who will interpet it, God tells them to and gives it to them.
And who in the world said, that I was better than anyone else?? I didn't so have no idea where that came from.
about Noah...we've discussed that scroll or read the other God post and then ask questions hun.
By saying that your religion is correct, you are then implying that you or your belief is better than all the other ones because in some way yours is more "correct" than theirs is. What makes Cristianity the "Correct" religion and all the other ones some how false?
I'll believe the tounges thing when I see it, and I'm sure there is a perfectly logical explanation for it.
Originally posted by Tptmanno1
By saying that your religion is correct, you are then implying that you or your belief is better than all the other ones because in some way yours is more "correct" than theirs is. What makes Cristianity the "Correct" religion and all the other ones some how false?I'll believe the tounges thing when I see it, and I'm sure there is a perfectly logical explanation for it.
If you have the right to feel the way you want, but in NO way have i put anyone down. I've stated my beliefs and that is the purpose of this thread and i've answered your questions the best that i could 🙂
Honestly...a good question. I'm metis (Half French/ Half Plains Cree). My dad is Roman Catholic, so I was Baptised as a kid. My mom being a Cree woman came from a Traditional background, now she's converted to the Bahai Faith.
Growing up, they both tried to swaddle me in their beliefs. Did it catch? Not really, I understand the morals, and helping your fellow man, never disrespecting your neighbor, never lying, nor cheating or causing any physical harm to others, but those are some good principles to live by. Don't see why I need religion to follow them.
My faith, is the faith I have in myself. I'm not an atheist, I don't have an understanding of the scientific principles regarding evolution.
But I won't call others down for having a religion, this is my way of life.
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Originally posted by Tptmanno1
You can't use the Bible for proof that God exists. If I don't believe in God than the Bible becomes fiction.
Its like trying to prove that Harry Potter exists using the Harry Potter books. Just because it lists real places and events that Could have occured. Death of Herod, Slaves escaping Egypt. Doesn't make it true!
And what about the other people who believe as strang as you do in their religion? The ones who have felt the presence of their God just as much as you do. What makes them so wrong and you so damn correct? Why are you better than them if thery believe in it exactly as much or more than you do? How do you know that its accually the Hindu Gods that exist instead of the Christian one. Hinduism has been around much much longer and has more followers and more devotees who have felt the presence of their god as much as you? How long have they been wrong, allways, or just since Christianity has existed? and what about before Judiasm? (because most people call Christianity and extension of Judaism, because it is.) Was there no God or what? What was the correct religion before Judiasm?
Answer these questions if you can. Until you do I refuse to accept any of your so called "proof".
And if you refuse, your cowardice has shown that your religion is false when put under scrutiny, and I win.
If you notice I've asked these questions in all of the God threads and never got an answer.
cowards.
Yes, actually, I have noticed. U seem to be very persistent. 😛 and that is a hard question to answer. But it is a matter of faith. And u will refuse to accept anything that FE, Jury, Ninja, me or anyone else with or viewpoint so is there any point?
"By saying that your religion is correct, you are then implying that you or your belief is better than all the other ones because in some way yours is more "correct" than theirs is. What makes Cristianity the "Correct" religion and all the other ones some how false?
I'll believe the tounges thing when I see it, and I'm sure there is a perfectly logical explanation for it. "
Yes, im sure there is. When u think of one, tell us. 😛 And Christianity is the ‘correct’ religion, more so than Jewish because everything in the old testament points to Jesus’ coming. With Jews, while they were originally God’s chosen people, they turned their backs on him when they decided that Jesus was nothing more than a prophet. They are still waiting for ‘God’s son’ …………………………………………………
Did I just go way off topic? *shrugs* oh well
And Christianity is the ‘correct’ religion, more so than Jewish because everything in the old testament points to Jesus’ comingeverything in the old testament points to a messiah comming The Christians belive that messiah to be Jesus, the Jews do not so.