Why do U believe in your religion?

Irrelevant.

Again, it can be proven wind exists, we see the effect it has on the world. It is not a matter of belief when it comes to wind, it is fact.

Again, I don't have problem with the wind. I believe wind exist.
As what you said we can see the effect of it in the world. I agree with that.

But nobody can see the wind.
We can only see its effect ... We can only feel it.

Yep, but it can still be proven to exist.

As I said, no need to prove that the wind exist. Because we can feel it. We cannot see it but we feel it. Enough reason to believe the wind exist.

Yes, but the fact remains that it CAN be proven.

And for us Christians, reason enough to believe God exist because we feel His presence, even though we don't see Him ... We can't see Him simply because He can't be seen.

Unless God is secretly a catholic preist then you can feel god. But you can feel wind

Originally posted by Jury
And for us Christians, reason enough to believe God exist because we feel His presence, even though we don't see Him ... We can't see Him simply because He can't be seen.

Exactly, thank you for proving my point. Wind exists for everyone, it can be proven for everyone. In order to see "proof of god" you have to belong to a certain religion, and have certain beliefs. Wind is more provable then god.

Exactly, Backfire. And you can't see God unless you're in Him.

In him? Is he a cannibal now?

Unless something is so for everyone, then it cannot be considered proof, it's nothing but belief.

😂 I'm sorry if you understand that way.

It's fact. Proof is proof, that's why it's called proof. It's when something can be proven factually and undisputably for everyone. God does not fall under this catagory, he is a belief, nothing more. This is fact.

The wind was only meant as a comparison, you know. It wasnt meant to stem an entire debate on proving its existance. 😛
I have seen, in my life, all the proof that God exists that I will even need. The biggest factor for me is the fact that I can feel God with me. I talk to him, and I know that he's there. 😊

And also in mine, ninja. 😉

I'm just telling him that nobody can see the wind. 🙄

what about a tornado.....isnt that seeing the wind

no, tornadoes and hurricanes and such are SATAN, dontcha know 😉

hehe Wuta that idd is one way of actualy seeing wind, altho mostly it is dust picked up by the wind.

Originally posted by ninjaturtle
The wind was only meant as a comparison, you know. It wasnt meant to stem an entire debate on proving its existance. 😛
I have seen, in my life, all the proof that God exists that I will even need. The biggest factor for me is the fact that I can feel God with me. I talk to him, and I know that he's there. 😊

Sort of like how Tom Hanks' character in that movie could feel the little girl and talk to her and the roommate and the other guy? Like that? 😱

Just for the record, I'm not totally an "outsider" to this whole "God" mess... I've said this in other threads, how I used to be very Christian and all that... I tried so hard to talk to him, and I really believed that with all my heart if I just "let him in", he would come along and fix all the bullshit that was going on in my life. Well, after ten years or so of praying, and hoping it would happen, it never did. I liked to think that I COULD feel him, but then I stepped back and realized it was all just a fabrication of my mind.

The Christians with all this "Proof" Still haven't answered my damn questions!!

You cowards. When you find somethign the might chalange your "Belief" you back out. All I'm asking for is for simple explanations, but you can't do it. You know why? Because its too illogical, there's too many holes. You Can't and thus I win!

Hey Tpt... What was your question(s)? I'm too lazy to go through all seven pages 😛