Micheal Moore vs Bill O'Reily

Started by §nakehead4 pages
Originally posted by mah
Moore is good...he presents his views in an overtly biased way, but unlike O'Reilly the ideas lying underneath are good.

🙄 😂 🙄

I read the transcript. It sounded like two retards with type A personalities fighting over a piece of pie.

Yeah, that's about right.

Both O'Reily and Moore suck.

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Originally posted by Mr Zero
But not a *****.

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Re: Re: Re: Micheal Moore vs Bill O'Reily

Originally posted by §nakehead
Yeah, Its pretty funny to see that big,stupid,white man lie 😂

Um... yeah... I actually didn't mean it that way, not that it would matter to you anyways 🙄

There's very little difference between Moore and O'Reilly, except for the fact that Moore actually tries to be funny, and is liberal. I'll say again... I like his films.

Re: Re: Micheal Moore vs Bill O'Reily

Originally posted by Darth Revan
I wish Al Franken and O'Reilly would go at it... Now THAT would be a debate 😎

Honestly, I don't see what people's problem is with Moore. I think he's rather entertaining, myself.

Morre is pretty funny sometimes, but for political commentators my favorite is Bill Maher.

Yeah, Bill Maher is great! 👆

Bill O'Reilly rocks. Moore had his ass handed to him.

I want Bill to run for President. I love people that tell it like it is.

There's a reason his TV and radio shows have the highest ratings, and are first in their time slots. Same goes for all of his #1 best selling books.

Honestly, if you don't like what he's got to say, you're probably pretty one sided. 😉

How ironic, since he's probably the most one sided human being I've ever heard of.

He doesn't really "tell it like it is", he gives his opinions as if they're facts, which they are not. This seems to trick people into thinking that he's stating facts, which he is not.

I don't hate Bill O'Riely, but I think he's really over rated, he's not a very good debater at all, he just repeats the same thing over and over again and then cuts people off when they're trying to give their response. His show is alright at times, but it gets old hearing him give the same tired notions over and over again.

Anyways, every negative thing I could ever say about Bill O'Riely has already been said beautifully in this article - http://www.maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=bill_oreilly

Honestly, if you don't like what he's got to say, you're probably pretty one sided.

Whatever your views are you probably shouldn't say them out loud.

Originally posted by BackFire
How ironic, since he's probably the most one sided human being I've ever heard of.

He doesn't really "tell it like it is", he gives his opinions as if they're facts, which they are not. This seems to trick people into thinking that he's stating facts, which he is not.

That's what most one sided people say about him. 😉

If you honestly think he's biased to either "side", you clearly don't watch the show, or have a mind set that won't allow to you take into accounts all sides of any given story.

It's funny how he gets email every single day, from people telling him he's biased. Once person will call him a radical far left liberal, then the next email will bash him for being a right wing conservative. 😂

Make a list of where he stands on different issues, then try to lump him into a category other than "Independant". I dare ya.

Have you ever noticed that no one that challenges him is able to back up their proof of his bias, either way? He always wants his critics on the show. Most simply "hide under their desks" as he would say. Others that are man enough to go on the show, are widdled down in a matter of minutes. Having their own bias and lack of factual evidence brought to light.

Also, he only cuts people off when they're circling around and avoiding the question asked. He'll ask the same question 3 times, and if the other person refuses to answer with a statement relevant to the question asked, he'll write 'em off. That's not at all rude.

Originally posted by BackFire
Anyways, every negative thing I could ever say about Bill O'Riely has already been said beautifully in this article - http://www.maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=bill_oreilly

I'm not reading the opinion of any 20 year old, ignorant jackass that goes on a tyrade of personal opinion that starts with a statement like "Bill O'Reilly is a big blubbering vagina." and closes with the link "Back to how much I rule..."

The mere fact that you point to this article as a reflection of your own feelings, speaks volumes about you.

He's extremely one sided from what I've seen, granted I don't watch his show very often (find it boring if I watch it for more then 5 minutes at a time) but from what I've seen he's almost always agreeing with Bush or the Republican party in general (not always of course, but more often then not).

Also, the example of the emails he recieves is not proof of anything other then the complete idiocy of most of his viewers. Yes, there is a reason why his show is so popular, it's the same reason reality shows and bad sitcoms are popular, because most people who watch them are stupid, and his show is no different. The proof is in the emails he recieves.

It's true that he does cut off the mics of people when they are avoiding his question, but I've seen him do it plenty of times when he's simply losing an argument. He'll get all upitty and start calling them names to try to hurt their creidiblity, then cut their mic when they keep pimping him all over the place.

Anyways, I suggest you read the article I posted, there's some extrmely valid points in it. The fact that you are judging the entire article simply by the title despite the solid facts it makes speaks volumes about you. Don't let the crude title fool you, it's actually a very solid and humerous article, sadly it's probably the most entertaining, intelegent and witty thing Bill O'Riely has ever been accociated with.

The difference is Moore is challenging the status quo instead of challenging people who challenge it like Bill O'Reilly. If Bill O'Reilly could pull his head out of his ass for a while he'd see why Moore does what he does. Regardless of why, he is waking some people up.

-AC

No Alison, you're so far off it's not belieavable. He's even admitted it himself, he's a far-right extreme.

Off Topic: That Maddox the pirate guy is a complete dumbass.

Originally posted by mah
No Alison, you're so far off it's not belieavable. He's even admitted it himself, he's a far-right extreme.

Absolute statements require absolute knowledge. That means you need factual evidence to back up your claims. Show me proof, and I'll believe you. Proof is not the personal opinion of you, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, your father, Al Sharpton, or anyone else. Find me something on foxnews.com, foxnews.com/oreilly, or billoreilly.com that corroborates your statement.

I defy you to find a direct statement from him that says that. Fortunately that shouldn't take you very long, since you say he said it himself. 🙂

Originally posted by BackFire
Anyways, I suggest you read the article I posted, there's some extrmely valid points in it. The fact that you are judging the entire article simply by the title despite the solid facts it makes speaks volumes about you.

1) You're going to have to point said "extremely valid points" out to me, because I must have missed them.

2) Come on...you can create sentences by yourself without having to lift mine, can't ya? 🙄

Now....I did go through it. Just for you. 😉

Breakdown:

Starts off with a clear bias against Bill O'Reilly.
"Bill O'Reilly is a big blubbering vagina."

"If I had to describe Bill O'Reilly in a phrase, it would be "sock-sniffer." You know the kind of guy who comes home from a long day of work, his feet have been sweating all day, his socks are ripe with the pungent aroma of stale milk and wet leather, and after he finally sits down and takes his socks off, but just before he throws them in the hamper, he takes a quick sniff to sample his odors."

Nothing more than immature insults. It worries me that he has the time to not only think about all this, but to site down and create an entire webpage to fill with it.

"O'Reilly wouldn't be such a bad guy if he would quit crying for a few minutes, step back, re-evaluate his life, and realize that he's a giant blubbering vagina."

More immature personal commentary without any solid justifications for such criticisms.

"In his "Talking Points Memo" segment, he whined that "nearly everyday, there's something written on the Internet about me that's flat out untrue," continuing with his theory that "the reason these net people get away with all kinds of stuff is that they work for no one. They put stuff up with no restraints. This, of course, is dangerous..."

The show archives don't go back to June of 2003. Therefore, due solely to the fact that the remaining 98% of that particular segment was left out, I feel I can safely ignore his entire argument.

"What do you think of that you sock-sniffing bog trotter?"

More immature name calling.

"When Bill feels threatened enough, he goes after the people who say these "vile" things about him. For example, his much publicized tirade with political satirist Al Franken ended with FOX News lawyers being laughed out of court."

This statement implies that Bill O'Reilly sued Al Franken, which is incorrect. The Fox News Channel sued Al Franken and his publishing house only to stop them from using the phrase "fair and balanced" in the title of his book. Bill O'Reilly was in no way involved with the suit.

"Everything about this guy is obsessive. He speaks with an obnoxious cadence and rhythm, careful to chant the same handful of phrases over and over again. His entire repertoire of insults range from the versatile "ideologue" (oh no, don't call me an advocate of a particular ideology, anything but that! Dumbass), to "demonizer," and "ridiculous." In fact, he repeats these phrases on his show, "The O'Reilly Factor," so many times, you could play a game of Bingo while tuned in. Simply print out the following sheet and mark a square each time he does or says anything listed. You win when you get 5 in a row (horizontal, vertical or diagonal)"

So this guy is all disgruntled because he doesn't like the way Bill O'Reilly speaks? And he has nothing better to do but to make a web page about it? That aside, is the above statement anything more than personal opinion? The way in which Bill O'Reilly talks, or the words he chooses, have absolutely nothing to due with his ability to report news and current events in a fair way.

"Aligning himself with the working class while wearing a $3,000 suit."

All TV personalities have wardrobes provided to them by the station they work for. I thought that was common knowledge. But just to back this up, here it is straight from www.foxnews.com: "'You have the best-dressed male newscasters with the nicest suits I have seen on TV. _Do you require this of everyone, or do you supply all their clothes?

Gwen Marder, one of our FOX Fashion Stylists says, "Thank you for noticing. TV is a very visual medium and we feel that paying attention to every aspect of production is important; lighting, graphics, music, sets and, of course, wardrobe. The wardrobe department combs the menswear and womenswear clothing markets to bring our talent the most professional and coordinated looks that complete the successful FOX visual impact."

"Cranky douche-bag facial expressions."

Still more immature name calling. I expected to be able to find at least one intelligent point to debate.

Homepage:

"This page is about me and why everything I like is great. If you disagree with anything you find on this page, you are wrong."

Nice. Very Michael Moore.

"Do you like my page? If not, eat me."

Clearly an emotionally mature, educated, classy individual...

I'm not sure why you would point to this particular article to illustrate the point you were trying to make regarding Bill O'Reilly. There is not a single fact to be found on the page, much less the site. The entire website is dedicated to the opinion of the creator. What's more, it's virtually all belligerent, immature rhetoric from one person that, quite obviously, doesn't have much else to do other than complain about virtually everything he comes into contact with.

I'm more than willing to concede to well thought out, factual arguments you or anyone else might have. But all I'm getting is personal opinion. Which, as I said before, has absolutely no bearing whatsoever in an argument about a particular persons skills or abilities. I mean really, dislike him all you want. But don't make claims about someone being a biased, one sided, bigot without having anything concrete to back it up. At least have the humility and fortitude to call your opinion what it is.

uh oh, something got fisked.