Micheal Moore vs Bill O'Reily

Started by KidRock4 pages

Maddox the loser is just an immature computer tech. who is pissed off at all the high school football players of the world who beat him up. So he lets it all out on his site.

The one's who give the beatings are bigger losers than the ones who take it.

-AC

"During an interview with NPR's Terri Gross, Bill was quoted as saying: "don't take your ire out on my product because you don't like me." Hey Bill, isn't that the whole premise behind a BOYCOTT? Big blubbering Bill chose not to drink Pepsi when they signed rapper Ludacris to do commercials, yet he expects people to go out and buy his shitty new book even if they don't like him (don't take my word for it being shitty, check out what people are saying on Amazon). "

There's a solid point. Why is it okay for him to boycott something, but when it comes to his book, everyone should buy it reguardless of whether or not they like him? Sounds like hypocracy to me.

"Boorish intimidation towards guests who have something better to do then appear on the O'Riely Factor"

Does this all the time. I've seen him do it. He will claim someone is a coward if they don't appear on his show, despite it being nothing more then probably having something more important to do then go on his show.

"Labeling his guests as unpatriotic if they disagree with him"

Again, I've seen this one happen quite a bit, it's almost as stupid as the blind and unprovable statement "anyone who disagrees with him is one sided". You seem to be all for proving things, so prove this to me, or maybe you should take your own advice and recognize your opinion as such.

"Asking rapid fire questions without giving the guest a chance to reply"

Seen this happen numerous times on his show. One of his more annoying traits.

"Makes controversial claims without siting recourses"

This should be a big one for you since you're so upitty with proving statements people make during an argument.

"Speaking of his shitty new book, there's a quote in it saying "in order to be truly successful you have to be brutally honest with yourself. Excuses and rationalizations have to be put aside. You must define your own life," continuing with the definition he's giving you for your life "[and] not let others do it for you." Wow, thanks Bill! You condescending son of a *****. As if he wasn't already a giant self-collapsing vortex of hypocrisy, there are literally thousands of other examples I could cite of him "defining" people's lives. For example, regarding people who support Michael Jackson, he said "all Americans should remain on the sidelines and watch the process." Oh really? Does that include you, Bill? Or are broad sweeping generalizations about what "Americans should do" inapplicable to cranky, joyless blowhards?"

Sounds like a valid point to me.

Those are the points you seemed to pass on or miss entirely. How convinient you only pointed out the instances of "immature name calling" as if that's all his article was. These instances of "immature name calling" was simply put in as a humerous bumper to wade the reader into his actual points against Bill O'Riely.

I find it wierd you use the cop out argument of "it's only his opinion". I hear that alot around here, and I tire of it. I never once, not ONCE said there was anything more then an opinion presented on that site. What I did say was he raised some good POINT about Bill O'Riely. There are no facts here, everything that has been said is merely opinion, including *GASP* you're statements as well. The statement of "everyone who disagrees with him is one sided" is YOUR opinion and nothing more, just as my statements about him being one sided are MY opinion, and everything Maddox had to say about O'Riely is HIS opionion (actually he did bring up some facts, like the shitty reviews of his book on Amazon.com). I tire of having to explain this to everyone. You say you don't want to argue over opinions, wake up, that's exactly what you're doing. You're arguing because our opinions on the man differ, nothing more.

I also find it humerous that you read a maddox article and say "it frightens me that he has the time to write articles like this" yet you're spending your time writing a large statement about your opinion on Bill O'Riely, the only difference is you're defending him, and he's attacking him.

There's alot of hypocracy in your statements, from complaining that everyones just giving their opinions about him and that you want facts, despite you doing the exact same thing as everyone else in giving nothing more then your opinion, to doing what many guests do on the O'Riely factor by "avoiding the point". For example....

"All TV personalities have wardrobes provided to them by the station they work for. I thought that was common knowledge. But just to back this up, here it is straight from www.foxnews.com: "'You have the best-dressed male newscasters with the nicest suits I have seen on TV. _Do you require this of everyone, or do you supply all their clothes?

Gwen Marder, one of our FOX Fashion Stylists says, "Thank you for noticing. TV is a very visual medium and we feel that paying attention to every aspect of production is important; lighting, graphics, music, sets and, of course, wardrobe. The wardrobe department combs the menswear and womenswear clothing markets to bring our talent the most professional and coordinated looks that complete the successful FOX visual impact.""

This is not the point at all. His point is that O'Riely does all this stuff while trying to attain the image of a "working class Joe", which he is not.

Anyways, I suppose a certain ammount of hypocracy should be expected from such a blind fan of Mr. O'Riely, since it's sucha big part of his show.

Originally posted by KidRock
Maddox the loser is just an immature computer tech. who is pissed off at all the high school football players of the world who beat him up. So he lets it all out on his site.

Heh, this "loser" has become very successful off of his website. He's being offered many jobs, from sitcom writing, to hosting his own radio show. Keep in mind this guy's website grew in popularity by nothing other then word of mouth. He has no ads for it, he has no publicity, he became popular just because his articles are so generally fun to read.

Yeah, a real "loser". Coming from someone who has that rectal scrap "kid rock" in his avatar and sig, that's saying alot.

Originally posted by *Alison*
Find me something on foxnews.com, foxnews.com/oreilly, or billoreilly.com that corroborates your statement.

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Originally posted by mah
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So I guess that means you couldn't find anything? How am I supposed to believe what you say, when you can't prove it? You said that he himself said that he was infact a "far right extreme."

Yet when I ask you for the direct quote, you can't find it?
Why even bring it up? If you can find it, I'll agree, you'll be right. I'll be wrong, I'll shout it from the roof tops. I only asked that you find it.

Find it anywhere you like, as long as it's not a snipet taken entirely out of context. So if you get it from cnn.com or something, I want atleast the two sentences before and after the statement in question.

I believe he was laughing at the sites you mentioned. As if he's going to put a quote like that on his site, or as if anyone who dependant on his success (foxnew.com, etc) is going to post a quote saying "I'm a far right wing extremist" seeing as it will only make more people dislike him.

Now, I don't particularly think he's a "far right wing extremist", I've been inclined to agree with him on some occasions (I don't remember when, but trust me, it happened), however, when I said he was one sided, I meant that he is USUALLY giving opinions that are very comparable to the beliefs of very strong republican beliefs.

And just for you, yes, this is all my opinion, nothing more.

Originally posted by BackFire
Heh, this "loser" has become very successful off of his website. He's being offered many jobs, from sitcom writing, to hosting his own radio show. Keep in mind this guy's website grew in popularity by nothing other then word of mouth. He has no ads for it, he has no publicity, he became popular just because his articles are so generally fun to read.

Yeah, a real "loser". Coming from someone who has that rectal scrap "kid rock" in his avatar and sig, that's saying alot.

What does my sig and Avatar have to do with anything?
If you want to go that way I could say anyone who likes horror movies is a 'loser' and has no life..but I wont say that just becuase you like something doesnt mean you are like that but maybe you are who knows. Anyway like I said maddox is a loser.

Also if you read any of Maddox hate mail all his comebacks are
"have fun frying my french fries you big sports athlete har har har!!!" or somethins stupid. When we all know those jocks back in highschool who became football players make more in a year then he does in 10.

A "loser" who is becomming very successful becuase of that website. Perhaps you dislike him because you are one of the "dumb jocks" he mocks constantly on his site. What is your defintion of a loser anyways? Because I really doubt Maddox fits into anyones definition.

And your sig and avatar have to do with everything, because no one with a brain likes that dipshit kid rock, therefor nothing you say has any credibility. It would be like if my favorite movie was Glitter, and I tried to say anything bad about anything, no one would take me seriously because I like such a horrible movie, thus having bad taste.

"Also if you read any of Maddox hate mail all his comebacks are
"have fun frying my french fries you big sports athlete har har har!!!" or somethins stupid. When we all know those jocks back in highschool who became football players make more in a year then he does in 10."

Yeah, all 1% of them that make it into the big leagues. He's accurate in saying that most jocks do actually have shitty jobs after high school, since they get basically carried through school because of their sport. Then they get into the real world and have no real world skills because running and catching a ball doesn't translate into something that any of them will find usefull in a normal job.

Originally posted by BackFire
A "loser" who is becomming very successful becuase of that website. Perhaps you dislike him because you are one of the "dumb jocks" he mocks constantly on his site. What is your defintion of a loser anyways? Because I really doubt Maddox fits into anyones definition.

And your sig and avatar have to do with everything, because no one with a brain likes that dipshit kid rock, therefor nothing you say has any credibility. It would be like if my favorite movie was Glitter, and I tried to say anything bad about anything, no one would take me seriously because I like such a horrible movie, thus having bad taste.

Lol this coming from a guy with "infected" under his avatar. Are you gonna call kidrock a dumbass? I doubt it since it would be pretty ironic he makes a LOT more money then you ever will...but hes such a "dumbass"

he does make horrible music though

Yes, god forbid I have a reference to a movie in my avatar when we are, after all, ON A SITE DEDICATED TO MOVIES.

And if Forrest Gump showed us anything, it's that money doesn't automatically equate to intelegence.

Also, that's quite a judgement you made on me, I'm only 21 years old, still going to college, yet you seem sure that I will never make as much money as Kid Crap. How do you know this? As if Kid Rock won't just blunder his money on drugs and hookers in a few years when he's on the lists of "one hit wonders" on VH1.

Originally posted by BackFire
Yes, god forbid I have a reference to a movie in my avatar when we are, after all, ON A SITE DEDICATED TO MOVIES.

And if Forrest Gump showed us anything, it's that money doesn't automatically equate to intelegence.

Also, that's quite a judgement you made on me, I'm only 21 years old, still going to college, yet you seem sure that I will never make as much money as Kid Crap. How do you know this? As if Kid Rock won't just blunder his money on drugs and hookers in a few years when he's on the lists of "one hit wonders" on VH1.

Maybe you will make a lot of money..what do I care? You say "kid crap" yet hes making so much money obviously something isnt to crappy about him. Also if your so sure your going to make a lot of money why are you getting so defensive? I just made my opinion I think maddox is a jackass and you defend him like hes your god.

1. Kid Rock IS a dumbass with easily a quarter of the brainpower Maddox has.

2. I don't always agree with him, but his site can be pretty entertaining. It also helps that I've never liked jocks.

http://maddox.xmission.com/adaptation.html

Ah Gotta love the maddox sterotyping. Isnt he just a genius.

EDIT: Was fun argueing with you guys but I must be off.

i just dont get kid rock. he wants to rap then he goes all country. he isnt really sure what he wants to suck at.but what ever he does he still sucks

Yes, I think he's a god because I enjoy reading his articles and feel he usually raises valid points in them. So, now if I defend someone against a vague, idiotic attack such as calling them a "loser" without any justification as to WHY he's a loser, I think they're a god? Yeah, you're really showing me how shitty maddox is with you're great reasoning. Again, why is he a loser?

His site is among the most popular on the net, and unlike Kid Rock, he got popular through word of mouth and NOTHING more. People thought he was humerous and talented so they pointed it out to their friends, who pointed it out to their friends, and now he's gotten popular while keeping his credibility and dignity. Unlike Kid Crap, who whored himself to MTV (Moron TV) in order to get them to cram his stupid gibberish song "Bawitaba" down our throats untill people liked him (as MTV does with most shitty artists they want to get popular). The world is finally recovering from this horrid attack on society, which would account for his progressively waning record sales and concert ticket sales.

Then again, maybe with such intriguing song titles such as "American Badass", "Bawitaba", and the oh so classy and intelegent "**** Off" he truly is an intelegent individual.

Perhaps you haven't heard, but that "Stereotype" he presented is acutally quite true. I hear people talking like that all the time. But I guess you're to busy listening to the lyrical genius of Kid Rock to hear the way so many stupid teens talk.

Funny BackFire if my name wasnt KidRock you would have no arguement.