the egg or the chicken?

Started by Ushgarak5 pages

I have NO idea why you think that. It is entirely possible the egg came first; a pre-evolutionary stage of the chicken laid it and a chicken came out. That is actually more likely.

Originally posted by mah
anyways; the chicken was first, right?
Can't tell you that until we sort out this time problem 😉

Originally posted by Ushgarak
I have NO idea why you think that. It is entirely possible the egg came first; a pre-evolutionary stage of the chicken laid it and a chicken came out. That is actually more likely.
It would more likely have been an evolutionary process over millions of years. You can't just say this is where is became a chicken.

well I think of the chicken as anything that can make some new lifeform.

On the contrary, at ONE point it would one day be what we would call a chicken whilst its parents were not. There HAS to be a cut-off point for species somewhere.

And no, Raz- seriosuly, that theory disposes of the theory of 'perceived' time entirely. We are not perceiving time. We don't even think we are. So they say.

But some lizards lay eggs aswell. They are possibly not chickens 😉

Originally posted by Ushgarak
So they say.

Who are "they"?

you know, after all this talking... I feel like chicken tonight : lots of feathers and always babbling

Originally posted by Ushgarak
On the contrary, at ONE point it would one day be what we would call a chicken whilst its parents were not. There HAS to be a cut-off point for species somewhere.

Think about it Ush. It wouldn't have suddenly turned into a chicken. It would have had a mixure of the ancestors of chickens and the chickens we have today. i.e. it might have had scales AND feathers. Is that a chicken?

'They' is whatever phD scientist is fronting his latest theory to the Lancet. 'No-time' theory lkast diud rounds last September; articles in the broadsheets and so on, pointing out that the Greeks first thought of it.

And I repeat, Raz, that there would be, at SOME point, something we would define as a chicken as opposed to something we would not. A half-chicken is not a chicken. And as such half-breeds do not exist today they could not be considered species.

There WOULD be such a thing as the first chicken.

Yes but would we noticed the difference between the first chicken and its parents. It wouldn't have THAT much difference between them. You could never IMO find the first chicken. Just like we couldn't find the first human.....in evolutionary terms.

More to the point, it is unlikely two scientists would actually agree on what technically constitues a chicken.

So yes, it is only a theoretical thing.

Hurrah! I'm nearly right! 😂

I'm gonna say the egg first came, then the first (modern) chicken arrived 😄

well its just one big chain. the chicken had to have started it so it can lay eggs.

Well, here we are, back at the start!

well let me put it all together in to one big sensible answer. we are too young to know the answer!

The chicken.

God, I miss DD.

All I know is that I like scrambled eggs. And chicken is tasty. So let's drop this whole chicken egg crap 😛

For LadyEowyn,

Since chickens evolved from another creature, one day (*in theory*) a chicken was born from an EGG which was distinct from its ancestors and looked similar to a modern chicken.

So in that sense the EGG came first from which the first modern chicken hatched from 😄