The LEAST Talented Filmmaker of All Time?

Started by Primitive Screwhead #13 pages

Originally posted by Bad Boy
How can people mention Michael Bay, Stephen Sommers, John Woo blah.... cos at least these guys do something original- love it our hate it.

It's as simple as this....... PAUL W. ANDERSON

Resident Evil and Mortal Kombat weren't THAT bad. But in reference to the horrid follow-up MK: Annihilation, I think John Leonetti also needs to be added to the "shit list". Other films by him:

Joe Dirt
The Scorpion King
Child's Play 3
Detroit Rock City
Hot Shots! Part Deux
Honey

Well, skin me alive and call me luggage... that is a really BAD track record!

Re: The LEAST Talented Filmmaker of All Time?

Originally posted by Primitive Screwhead #1
Well, there's been extensive discussion about the most talented filmmakers of all time... but after having watched Troy last night, I have to comment that Wolfgang Petersen is going in the wrong direction with his movies ever since he did the excellent Das Boot. I think that Troy is Petersen's worst work yet... Orlando Bloom was completely laughable with his portrayal of Paris (look beyond the pretty boy looks all you Bloomers... he was utterly mis-cast here), Brian Cox completely overracted, and way too many liberties were taken with the Trojan history. Even worse, I was completely devastated seeing Peter O'Toole's acting ability wasted in scenes with a Brad Pitt who didn't look like he had any desire to be on the set.

I'm not saying Petersen's at worst director level ever just yet (save that for Ed Wood), but if he keeps up at his current pace, he'll be working his way into that group very soon. Air Force One? The Perfect Storm? Outbreak? I would never have thought movies like these would have come from the same director as In The Line of Fire and Das Boot.

are you saying that those 3 movies you just mentioned Air Force One,The Perfect Storm and Outbreak were bad films? If so,your way off target,those were excellent well made films.

At any rate, I didn't want this to turn into a Troy review. I wanted to see if anyone was in agreement that Petersen needs a couple decent outputs to salvage his directorial reputation. He'll get his chance with Ender's Game in 2006... but I'm not holding my breath.

Originally posted by Primitive Screwhead #1
Resident Evil and Mortal Kombat weren't THAT bad. But in reference to the horrid follow-up MK: Annihilation, I think John Leonetti also needs to be added to the "shit list". Other films by him:

Joe Dirt
The Scorpion King
Child's Play 3
Detroit Rock City
Hot Shots! Part Deux
Honey

Well, skin me alive and call me luggage... that is a really BAD track record!

il iked resident evil and im gonna go see resident evil apocolypse

Joel Schumacher
Ed Wood
Jerry Bruchheimer
Joe Esterhas
Meir Zarchani
John Peters
-Horrible, Horrible Shit.

Originally posted by Primitive Screwhead #1
Resident Evil and Mortal Kombat weren't THAT bad. But in reference to the horrid follow-up MK: Annihilation, I think John Leonetti also needs to be added to the "shit list". Other films by him:

Joe Dirt
The Scorpion King
Child's Play 3
Detroit Rock City
Hot Shots! Part Deux
Honey

Well, skin me alive and call me luggage... that is a really BAD track record!


Joe Dirt was pretty good

Re: Re: The LEAST Talented Filmmaker of All Time?

Originally posted by Mr Parker

are you saying that those 3 movies you just mentioned Air Force One,The Perfect Storm and Outbreak were bad films? If so,your way off target,those were excellent well made films.

Exactly how can an opinion be off target? We merely disagree in taste.

Originally posted by Primitive Screwhead #1
Resident Evil and Mortal Kombat weren't THAT bad. But in reference to the horrid follow-up MK: Annihilation, I think John Leonetti also needs to be added to the "shit list". Other films by him:

Joe Dirt
The Scorpion King
Child's Play 3
Detroit Rock City
Hot Shots! Part Deux
Honey

Well, skin me alive and call me luggage... that is a really BAD track record!

He's only directed "Mortal Kombat 2". The rest, he only served as cinematographer. I know for a fact that "Hot Shots: Part Deux" was Jim Abrahams.

I stand corrected, CA. Wasn't reading all the way on IMDB. And you're right... I should have known better on Hot Shots II. Guess Leonetti just has a track record of being tied to subpar flicks.

Re: Re: Re: The LEAST Talented Filmmaker of All Time?

Exactly how can an opinion be off target? We merely disagree in taste. [/B][/QUOTE]

Okay well with The Perfect Storm and Outbreak while even though "I" really enjoyed them,I can understand you not liking them because I have come across people before who also thought they were not that great,but Im shocked that you could put AIR FORCE ONE in there as not one of his best if not the best of his because I have NEVER encountered anybody who thought that was a poorly made film. 😕

thank you 😱 air force one was great

Bad Boy thinks Stephen Sommers is original???? The Mummy movies were just updates of the 1932 film. And Van Helsing is based off several novels. All he's done so far is re-hashed old film characters.

1st off I don't know how someone named Peter Jackson, they're crazy..

Second, I don't know how Sommers messed up Van Helsing. That could've been the coolest movie ever and he messed it up, Sommers is by far one of the shittiest film-makers ever.

Anderson, Mortal Kombat is indeed horrible..but it is also a new age classic..

Umm..Joe Dirt = Good movie, will be a new aged classic years from now.

I think Sommers is by far one of the worst...

MK: Annihilation was so bad I walked out of the theater after 20 minutes. Thats the only movie I've ever walked out on.

I was going to say Schumaker too, but he's made some good flicks like Phone Booth and 8mm. Too bad he will NEVER live down those horrid Batman movies.

Originally posted by Primitive Screwhead #1
Just out of curiosity, what did you like about Air Force One?

Try watching Air force one, but pretend that Harrison Ford (as the president) is having an incestuous relationship with his daughter....

It changes the whole dynamic of the movie and makes it quite watchable.

Originally posted by Creechuur
I was going to say Schumaker too, but he's made some good flicks like Phone Booth and 8mm.

Much as I dislike his 2 batman movies - props to Schumaker for PB and 8mm, both damn fine movies... I listened to the Directors commentary on Phone Booth and Joel is a passionate and committed director who knows his game. If you have it or rent it, give the track a listen, it's one of the best I've heard.

Doubt he's much fun to work for, but occasionaly his product is something exceptional.

Michael Moore...he is complete jerk especially when he made Farenheit 9/11 just his oppuinion.

Originally posted by theone0103
Michael Moore...he is complete jerk especially when he made Farenheit 9/11 just his oppuinion.

Yeah! That's why Quentin Tarantino (president) and the rest of the jury at Cannes this year gave Moore the "worst film of all time award"...

No! WAIT! My mistake, they game him the Palm d'Or for best film.

Guess that makes them idiots and you some sort of cinematic genius?

Any award coming from a hack like Quentin should be taken with a grain of salt. I've never been a fan of empty Academy Awards to begin with.

Originally posted by Mr Zero
Yeah! That's why Quentin Tarantino (president) and the rest of the jury at Cannes this year gave Moore the "worst film of all time award"...

No! WAIT! My mistake, they game him the Palm d'Or for best film.

Guess that makes them idiots and you some sort of cinematic genius?

I'm big fan of QT and admire his work as a filmaker and director. But I don't think he makes a great judge. I'm thinking he awarded the film becuase of the way is film and EDITED.

Yes, the jury said that F9/11 was given the award because it was the best film not because of it's politics. Personally I thought the film could have been handled much better - but fact remains that many many people think Moore is a talented film-maker.

And Mr Addiction - even if you don't like what Tarantino does and think he's over-rated: you must surely admit that he has a good eye as a director and editor?