We spend our hard earned money to get the best out of a movie, thats why I say if you make a film make it d*mn good because I dont want to spend my money on a piece of crap. And if I spend my money on a movie that sucks I have every right to put it down along with the director. If we considered all directors hard working there would be even more piece of sh*t films then there is today.
Originally posted by Creechuur
MK: Annihilation was so bad I walked out of the theater after 20 minutes. Thats the only movie I've ever walked out on.I was going to say Schumaker too, but he's made some good flicks like Phone Booth and 8mm. Too bad he will NEVER live down those horrid Batman movies.
neither will Tim Burton. 😄 Thats funny I love Batman Forever except the horrible casting choice of Chris O'donnel as Robin,but I hated Phone Booth.
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
The first 2 are gold, atleast, that's according to the general consensus.
But - yeah as usual - the general consensus is 100% wrong. They are interesting movies in there own way , but FAR from gold... Batman as a short cowardly murderer? The joker as a fat old gangster?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !
Originally posted by Mr Zero
But - yeah as usual - the general consensus is 100% wrong. They are interesting movies in there own way , but FAR from gold... Batman as a short cowardly murderer?
Now, now. How can an opinion be wrong?
There is no visual confirmation in the Burton Batman movies that he ever killed anyone. Just an observation.
Originally posted by Cinemaddiction
Now, now. How can an opinion be wrong?There is no visual confirmation in the Burton Batman movies that he ever killed anyone. Just an observation.
First a lesson in semantics.
How can an opinion be wrong - when it's incorrect... "It's my opinion that the world is flat, Jews are mean and the president is always right"
If we state our opinions as facts "the first two are gold - the world is flat" then no amount of "consensus agrees with me" makes it something that can brook no argument.
If you use the words ARE and IS you are by implication stating fact. If you say, "I - like most people - believe the first two are gold" then I cant call you wrong, I can only call you deluded.
And a lesson in realism in cinema: are you trying to tell me that bats blew a factory full of people sky high and nobody got killed? Or is it your opinion that explosions dont kill people?
Oh, I'm aware of the explosions, and the henchman down the belltower, its just that none of deaths were ever very "personal", for the lack of a better word.
For the sake of furthur splitting hairs on the whole semantics issue, as pedestrian as it may seem, the Burton movies had a better draw than the last 2 offerings. They also seemed a little more character driven and meaningful than the villainous stable oriented Hollywood sequels.
They were both sorely missing emotional plausibility, since I always thought Batman's appeal was his inability to cope with his parents death, in addition to commitment issues.
Originally posted by Mr Zero
First a lesson in semantics.How can an opinion be wrong - when it's incorrect... "It's my opinion that the world is flat, Jews are mean and the president is always right"
If we state our opinions as facts "the first two are gold - the world is flat" then no amount of "consensus agrees with me" makes it something that can brook no argument.
If you use the words ARE and IS you are by implication stating fact. If you say, "I - like most people - believe the first two are gold" then I cant call you wrong, I can only call you deluded.
And a lesson in realism in cinema: are you trying to tell me that bats blew a factory full of people sky high and nobody got killed? Or is it your opinion that explosions dont kill people?
An opinion implies a conclusion thought out that is open to dispute (per Merriam-Webster). Your examples are not as they can be disproven with actual data... so they not qualify as an opinion. The statement... "It is my opinion that this is the movie is the worst one ever" is a legitimate opinion... the statement is subjective, and cannot be countered with factual evidence. Online movie/magazine/videogame reviews and magazine articles do not constitute factual evidence... they too are statements of opinion.