Well, according to Chris Priest Panther's suit can be cut if it's slashed correctly. So I would assume that Wolverine would have no problem cutting through it since Kraven did in the Marvel Knights series. And yeah -- if you read the Christopher Priest site he talks about how T'Challa has anti-metal claws that can theoretically break down adamantium. But of course nothing was confirmed.
Yeah, if cut along the grain of the fabric, the suit can be cut.
Weapon X gave Agent Zero a sniper rifle and a bullet made out of anti-metal to assassinate Wolverine. It was a dud bullet just because it was a psychological test, but they confirmed that if indeed it was anti-metal, it would have worked.
Well then. Wolverine's ass is in deep trouble then, eh? He might have his work cut out for him going against T'Challa. Anyway back to the topic. If there are any avid Batman readers out there who'd like to discuss in detail why BATMAN might be able to take on Panther -- please. Do not hesitate to respond. So far everyone on the thread is on the site of The PANTHER!
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i say Batman! Why? because Batman can virtually beat any opponent that isn't vastly more powerful than himself. His gadget belt has things in it that would give him more time to come up with a plan to beat him. Yet is also depends on environment and prep time. As for the panthers suit, Batman does not need to get through the suit to damage him.
Also i have seen Batman also trained himself to be at the level of peak human. He is one of the best martial artists, and has held his own against Superman, Captain America, Ras Al Ghul, Hush, Bane, Catwoman, Clayface, and many more. I think Batman could pull it off.
With his kimoyo card, Panther has access to a network of Wakandan satelites, this can get him any information he needs in seconds. He is a skilled martial artists, and like Batman travelled the world and learned from many people and places.
T'Challa has held his own against Iron Fist, Iron Man, Captain America, Mephisto, Kraven the Hunter, Red Skull, Klaw, Killmonger and more.
Panther has also proven to be a great tactical genius'. When it comes to fighting, military action and just putting together a stock portfolio (which he uses more often than not to win fights).
IMHO, he could woop Batman, and buy out Wayne Enterprises simultaneously.
I don't know why almost everybody votes for Batman. Sure, Black Panther is tough, rich and smart (just like me 😛 ), but like I said before, Black Panther and Batman are too equal.
Most things you say in favor of Black Panther, you can easily say for Batman as well, and vice versa. Whatever the Panther can do, the Bat can do also. Maaaybeee, Black Panther has a little edge thanks to his herb, but it won't make any difference, the two characters remain too equal.
I'm sorry to say this but -- Black Panther and Batman are by no means equals. The level of technology and resources that T'Challa wields are far superior to anything the Bat might have. As far as I recall Batman normally has compact technology he wields on a personal level. ( Not including his modes of transportation. Batplane, Batmobile etc ) In Black Panther # 11 T'Challa hid a vessel the size of over one hundred football fields in the East River. Now this vessel contained over 150 heavily armed guards and scientists on board. Black Panther unlike BATMAN commands armies. He's the leader of a NATION that in the Marvel Universe could rival the United States. Now mind you -- these guards are in many respects like his Hatut Zeraze. ( Wakandan Secret Police ). They're mad skilled in combat and do not hesitate to kill. Plus with their cloaking devices -- they're elite. Batman as formidable and intelligent as he is I still find it hard to believe he's in the same league as T'Challa. I mean BP has conversations with Reed Richards and few can follow that mofo.
Not to mention that Batman didn't really start his crusade until he was well in his teen years. Black Panther definately has experience on Batman in battles and training. He's been trained to fight since he could walk. It was his birthright as a Wakandan Prince to become the smartest, strongest and brightest. I would assume that if T'Challa had never taken the herb that he and Batman would have been equals. But -- his already FORMIDABLE skills were enhanced when he took the herbs. The FACT is...Black Panther is superior to Batman. But if it came down to a popularity vote -- Batman would win.
Batman with prep time is a very formidable beast, but he has his limits.
He beats his opponents with knowledge and skill.
If this fight were just a random meeting and neither had prep time, in terms of fighting skills they are about equals.
But Panther has his suit and that would give him the edge.
If batman or both of them had time to prepare, it would be a different story.
Originally posted by ScarletSpider
Yeah, if cut along the grain of the fabric, the suit can be cut.Weapon X gave Agent Zero a sniper rifle and a bullet made out of anti-metal to assassinate Wolverine. It was a dud bullet just because it was a psychological test, but they confirmed that if indeed it was anti-metal, it would have worked.
How does anti-metal work... even if it can cut through adamantium can it cut through his claws since it is not made of metal?
Now back to the subject at hand.... I don't read BP comics so I am not sure, but doesn't the public know that BP is T'Challa? If so then it is a major advantage that Bruce has over him, since he can attack him when he is unprepared... If not then you can just forget that argument 😉 ... But let me know if I am right or wrong
Regular "Wakandan" Vibranium, the stuff that his suit is made out of, absorbs waves. There's some in Cap's shield that absorbs the impact of projectiles. On one occasion, there was an explosion on a small island where there was also a minor vibranium source, the vibranium absorbed the sound and shockwave of the explosion.
Anti or "Antartic" (it is found in the Savage Land) Vibranium is the opposite. It constantly emits waves. Because of this dissonance, when in contact with other metal the waves hit it at a molecular level and break down the molecular bonds of the other material. The claws would be strong enough to break down the adamantium, and cut through the bone portion of his claws.
T'Challa has his super-senses. While not on par with DD's he can identify people by scents and heatbeats sometimes. Not to mention he has a brilliant deductive mind himself. If ever he and Wayne had met at some cushy millionair's club, he'd instantly be able to match the scents.
Originally posted by ScarletSpider
Regular "Wakandan" Vibranium, the stuff that his suit is made out of, absorbs waves. There's some in Cap's shield that absorbs the impact of projectiles. On one occasion, there was an explosion on a small island where there was also a minor vibranium source, the vibranium absorbed the sound and shockwave of the explosion.
I am sure that if both Bruce and T'Challa were in the same universe, then I am sure that Bruce would have gotten his hands on some Vibranium to experiment with for his costume.
Originally posted by ScarletSpider
Anti or "Antartic" (it is found in the Savage Land) Vibranium is the opposite. It constantly emits waves. Because of this dissonance, when in contact with other metal the waves hit it at a molecular level and break down the molecular bonds of the other material. The claws would be strong enough to break down the adamantium, and cut through the bone portion of his claws.
If it effects metals on a molecular level, then how would it effect other materials that are non mental like bones. Do we know if it has the same effect on all materials or if it is just metal. And how strong is the material itself, is it hard to break.
Originally posted by ScarletSpider
T'Challa has his super-senses. While not on par with DD's he can identify people by scents and heatbeats sometimes. Not to mention he has a brilliant deductive mind himself. If ever he and Wayne had met at some cushy millionair's club, he'd instantly be able to match the scents.
Batman has created gadgets before to supress his scent and the sound of his heart beat (even Superman could not hear it), so that won't be much use to him.
Originally posted by ScarletSpider
Anti-metal effects just metals. However the material is strong enough itself to rend bone.Batman cannot impliment his gadgets if he is unaware of his opponents abilities.
BP used to be an Avenger, didn't he? That means that information on his abilities are stored somewhere, since the avengers are so closely linked to the government I am sure that Bruce can manage to get his hands on the information through unoffecial channels.
Does this mean that Anti-metal is the new "Adamantium"?
Originally posted by Lenord
BP used to be an Avenger, didn't he? That means that information on his abilities are stored somewhere, since the avengers are so closely linked to the government I am sure that Bruce can manage to get his hands on the information through unoffecial channels.Does this mean that Anti-metal is the new "Adamantium"?
Anti metal isn't really explored much. And yes, BP is an Avenger. But in Red Zone, Gyrich confirmed that Iron Man and BP both keep the secrets of their work on the down low.
P.S: Scarlet Spidey, great sig, I love Dr.Spectrum. 👆
Experience! It all boils down to experience at least in my own opinion. Black Panther has been conditioned much longer in the skills that he has in comparison to Batman who I assume didn't really start his endevours to become what he currently is until his late to mid teens. While T'Challa has been cultivated and conditioned since birth to be the BEST of the Best. Afterall -- T'Challa is a King who runs an entire country. He was always expected to BE what he currently is.
Wouldn't it be funny if this battle was fought on an economic level rather than the two just duking it out for hours on end? T'Challa and Batman are SHREWD people and have skills that can be compared to ANY great buisness man or politician. If their fight started on that level things would be much more interesting. Wayne Enterprises buying out shares of T'Challa's stock and T'Challa doing the same. Each trying to get a foot hold in one another's wealth.
Yes. Although with T'Challa's grasp upon the economy, I think he might have a leg up. For good or bad, I can't think of any Batman story that really has him using and manipulating Wayne Enterprises. Whereas T'Challa took over Stark Enterprises by donating 300 dump trucks to a small farming country so they could get their produce in on time. This interrupted Stark's monopoly on that market and yadda yadda etc. etc.