Black Panther versus Batman.

The Black Panther is near the pinnicle of human physical perfection, his natural strength and abilities having been heightened by unidentified heart-shaped herb administered only to Wakandan kings during a sacred ascension ritual. THe herb os also only in Wakanda. While not superhuman, he is nearly as strong as a human being can become. He can lift (press) a maximum of 750 pounds with supreme effort.
An accomplished gymnast and acrobat, T'Challa is also an expert tracker. In addition, he has mastered various African martial arts.

Yeah Panther's had good trainers but Bats has had the best. Either way it doesn't say anything about how they take to the training. Batman is pretty much perfect. It's the reason so many people hate him. He's not the best martial artist but it's damn short list of people who are better than him.

Batman basically is the pinnacle of human perfection. Don't beleive what others say that he's every Olumpic athlete *10. That's obvious hype. But it's just short list of people who are better than him at anything.

Alright since they'll never battle we don't really know who'll win but I stick to Panther and you stick to Batman. Now I'm off to catch my school bus before it leaves me!

LOL, alright.

Well Arsenal, I didn't know any of that stuff. It would appear that Panther is an altered human. Bats has taken on altered humans before like Bane and Croc. Bats is also an aquired gymist and knows multiple martial arts. They are both smart too. I'd have to read more Panther to criticize him better. I still say Bats because he has so much experience fighting against the odds. He has gone toe-to-toe with Lady Shiva and Deathstroke to name a few.

Well, Black Panther's in Cap's league when it comes to fighting, he's one of the few people in Marvel that could give Cap the fight of his life. He's given hell to the Fantastic Four, and quite a few others, which I can't remember at the moment, hopefully someone else here does. Pound for pound, he's one of the most dangerous men in Marvel, and no one, especially the Avengers, would disagree. And along with his current suit and tech, makes him much more dangerous. From what I remember, only one person has beaten him in hand-to-hand so far, I can't remember his name either though, I'll have to look it up. And I wouldn't straight out say Batman's training is better than Panther's, it's probably about the same, with the scale tipping a little more in Panther's favor, since he's literally been training since he could walk. He's also one of the very few people Dr. Doom respects, and when Doom gives you props, you know you're the shit. Batman's may have fought some tough villains in his time, Black Panther's fought tough villains and other heroes, and other hero teams. To say Batman beats him easily is down right ridiculous, in my opinion. It's a close call, it can go to either, although I'd say T'Challa has the advantage.

What Tron said 😄

Tron, is Eric Killmonger the guy you are talking about? The guy that is better than panther?

Black Panther takes this.

Dr.Dooms or Bats??? whod win........Dooms

Yes, Tron was referring to Eric Killmonger. Time and time again, Eric has come back, beaten T'Challa and thrown him off of a waterfall. Through a series of events, he's actually now the Chief of the Panther Clan, with full rights to the title of Black Panther. Hopefully someone picks up the Panther character soon and touches upon this whole situation, lest T'Challa languish in limbo for another 20 years.

God dang, that sounds like a pretty grim ending for T'Challa. May I ask, does Eric have any enhancements like T'Challa? Or is he all natural?

Originally posted by Spiderninja008
Black Panther takes this.

Dr.Dooms or Bats??? whod win........Dooms

*Sigh*

Doom takes . Batman's good, but Doom's on a totally different level. Here's a fantasy battle site talking about it:

http://www.electricferret.com/fights/issue_171.htm

And with an exception with a few things, that's pretty how I see that fight going.

Back to topic:

My money's still on T'Challa

Originally posted by Tron
He's also one of the very few people Dr. Doom respects, and when Doom gives you props, you know you're the shit.

Very true....Doom respects no one! (except Reed, Panther and maybe 1 more person)

that one more person would be me, me and doom are tight
drunk - me and doom

Killmonger was originally all natural, not even any herbs to give him a little boost. Since being resurrected by this sect that follows him, the bad juju in the mystical temple where they resurrected him gave him mild super human strength. There was a Black Panther/Deadpool crossover that was pretty good, a few years back. Killmonger appears in it as Panther after T'Challa has abdicated the position. I forget the complete storyline, as Priest's stories often get complicated (but never muddled, he's a great writer, currently on Cap and Falc, pick it up!).

On topic--I'd go with Panther.

Quick questions, Scarlet, If you don't mind. Would you say that Eric's mild enhancements are like Panther, Captain America type? Or does it make him even stronger than that? I heard he beat Panther multiple times. Did he face him before or after he got enhancements? Or both?

black panther= http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/blackpanther.htm
batman http://www.classicmarvel.com/cast/batman.htm

Batman's training, I think is more intense than T'Challa because batman needs to train every now and then so that he is in tip top condition. While T'Challa does not need to train as much. Why because of the heart shaped herbs that he ate and it has enhancing properties.

And I read somewhere that batman endurance training include going out in to the vacuum of space without anything for five sec or minute. (You did not hear this from me, I am just mainly repeating what somebody else said.)

Killmonger beat Panther both before and after his enhancements. I'm thinking he's around 4 tons or so, maybe lower maybe a little higher. Nothing ridiculously strong that the likes of Panther hasn't defeated before. However, before his enhancement, he was a superb combatant, having never been bested by T'Challa. Killmonger has since taken the heart shaped herb, boosting his levels up again, however it remains to be seen what his final abilities are.

Panther still trains constantly, the herb isn't some wonder potion, it's more like a hella awesome dietary suppliment, he also started training years before Batman, and attended universities throughout the world, learning more fighting techniques as he went along.

As for Batman going into space unaided, that is just...retarded. Whoever wrote that needs to be slapped. Very. Hard.