Black Panther versus Batman.

Panther nationalized all foreign trusts in Wakanda and disolved their parliament, destabalizing their world market--he didn't do it with hacking.

Sure, Batman probably puts in an extra hour of training a day, however Panther has been doing it far longer, since he was a kid, his methods were perfected and improved long before Wayne's. The herb boosts his natural physical prowess, it does not magically grant him super abilities. He can take as much of it as he wants, if he does not exercise, his strength and speed will wane just like any man's. He cannot afford to go months without training, and he wouldn't even if he could because of his convictions.

Wakandan tech supports all the Avengers' needs. Wakanda also has its multi-purposed attack vehicles, sea worthy, capable of super sonic flight, space worthy etc. He hid one of these in a New York bay, succesfully cloaked from everyone. Anywhere he wants to go, anywhere he wants to invade he can. Wayne's business is nothing to scoff at, but it cannot compete against Panther's country's vast resources.

Here some info on Batman for thos of you who think you know him:
-Batman began his physical and mental conditioning when he was 11.
-Began intense physical training and weight lifting at age 12.
-Trained in the US for various martial arts for 3 years.
-Gained degrees in criminal science, forensics, computer science, chemistry and engineering by the time he was 16.
-Became 2st and 3nd degree black belt in Karate, Judo, Jujitsu, Aikido by the time he was 17.
-Trained and became proficient with all small arms and basic vehicles operations.

By the time he was 18 he:
-Studied commando style operations with small mercenary units.
-Left US to further study martial arts under specialized masters.
-Other skills: knife throwing, escrima, melee weapons mastery, body control
-Other skills: disguise, diverse environmental training, combat driving, savate, kungfu
-Other skills: security systems, illusion/sleight of hand, blind fighting
Info courtesy of http://www.starnet-database.com

All this by the time he was 18....Batman could beat the Panther. Like I said, he has beaten enhanced humans with no prep-time before (Deathstroke, Bane, Killer Croc to name a few) and some of the greatest martial artists of DC (Lady Shiva, Deathstroke Rah's Al Ghul-at least in swordsmanship)

Scarlet Spider, the herb does grant him super abilities. Besides anything physical it augments, the herb also gives him super senses. Such as taste, smell, hearing, and night vision. That info comes from Christopher Priest, a Black Panther writer. I am pretty sure that a Panther writer knows more about Panther than any of us.

black panther=Talents:
Acrobatics, Tumbling, Animal Handling, Martial Arts A, B, C and E, First Aid, Demolitions, Engineering, Detective, Marksman, Weaponsmaster, Leadership, Languages: Swahili-Arabic-French-English-Russian-Spanish-Hausa

batman=Talents:
Martial Arts A,B,C,D,E, Wrestling, Acrobatics, Tumbling, Detective(+3CS), Disquise/Actor, Resist Domination, Marksman, Weaponsmaster, Weapon Specialist: Batweapons, Computers, Forensics, Psychology, Kit bashing, Pilot: Helicopters to Jet Fighters, Horsemanship, Escape Artist, Leadership, Tracking, Medicine, First-Aid, Law, Law-Enforcement, Criminology, Engineering, Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Biochemistry, Computer Engineer, Electronics, Languages: English, French, Spanish, Russian, Japanese, Mandarin, Cantonese, Filipino, Korean, Arabic, Turkish, Polish, German, Latin, Greek, Italian, Portuguese, French, Hebrew, Thai, Vietnamese

It was actually Bob Almond, an artist/inker who worked on the series that kept Priest straight on all of the facts.

T'Challa was master of lethal combat by the age of 6. He's taken down Mephisto, Nightmare, Iron Fist, Man Ape, Klaw and more. He's faced the prospect of an international war with Atlantis, Latveria, Genosha and Lemuria.

They both have an equally impressive list of feats, and at this point we're just running around in circles. I still go with Panther, as he is a favored character of mine. A fight would be close, and it could go to either of them, but I would root for T'Challa.

It looks like that stuff tilts the scales in Batman's favor but I don't play that game. What the hell does Martial Arts A,B,C,D,E mean?

bEAT'S ME and as of when batman started his training is subject to debate. Because in justice league unlimited in KID STUFF. After him wonder woman, GL, superman had done what heroes do.

Wonder Woman said that it was fun to be a kid again to batman but batman said I stopped being a kid when I was eight years old.

Could he had started his straining at a younger age?

Wayne industries provided a one vehicle do all
capable of space flight ( opens a wormhole to approach light speed or maybe faster)
faster and more agile than any submarine.
can reach super sonic flight.
battle ready all though it cannot take brute punishment for long.

And on the training thing I said that batman trains more on the base that if they both decide to stop training whose skill is going to suffer more? Batman skills is going to suffer while the panther is still going to be in an ok condition. (Note I did not say good, or great)

I think the "my child hood ended when I was 8 years old" probably refers to the murders of his parents. After something like that happens, I would theorize that one loses any semblance of a childhood.

You could be right

I said it ealier Batman started trainung at 11.

T'Challa was educated at several prestigious universities in the U.S. and Europe ( total 14 universities ), earning highly advanced degrees in physics (Ph.D.), engineering, economics, political science and psychology. T'Challa is a master of several disciplines of martial arts, including some ninjitsu techniques of hypnosis and mind control. Hm. I think those were all unmentioned.

Anyway let me list some FACTS.
Fact; T'Challa is stronger than Batman. ( He can lift 750 lbs. )
Fact; T'Challa is FASTER than Batman. ( He's African -- come on. )
Fact; T'Challa is more agile than Batman. ( He can RUN up walls. )
Fact; T'Challa posses the same if not more resources than Batman.
Fact; T'Challa is just as if not more durable than Batman. ( Leaps 60 storys down and lands without a sound or damage. )
Fact; T'Challa has more BANK than Batman. ( Yes, this is a fact. )
Fact; T'Challa education wise is just as if not smarter than Batman. ( Look above. )
Fact; T'Challa's enhanced senses, tracking ability, vibranium suit give him the EXTRA advantage over Batman.

My Conclusion; T'Challa 9.5 Batman 7.5

Batman can bench 725.

BP's physical advantages seem minimal.

Batman has more experience.

Batman 10/BP 5

Just curious, how old is Batman suppose to be currently? An estimation. I doubt he's got as much experience as T'Challa. BP runs a country which effects more lives than Wayne Enterprises. He's been cultivated since BIRTH to be a warrior/King. How do you assume Bruce can match that? I love Batman and have collected his comics much longer than BP, but even I know when to call it. In a FAN vote -- Batman would win. Without a doubt. But going with the FACTS Batman is outmatched. Black Panther matches him in wits and cunning. Out matches him in speed and strength...come on now.

i dont even think the fan vote would be a factor....BP has consistently demonstrated he is one of the toughest and resourceful fighters on earth...he jus doesnt lose...and he is a hero....its almost like cheating...

Batman is in his early 30's I believe.

I've never seen T'Challa as a true " hero ". He's a King first and foremost. He does what's needed for his country and anything else is just extracurricular. But man, a fan vote would be a factor. Most people don't even know who T'Challa is or his abilities. This thread has proven that time and time again. Besides look at the Marvel vs. DC comics. Hulk was beaten by Superman, Namor by Aquaman. ( I agreed with Quicksilver losing....he's just not as fast. ) Everyone would vote Batman.

Dude your "runs a country" arguemetn just proves my point. Batman has more time devoted to dirty work, not politics.

Thus that is why his training is more intense.
batman also when to other prestigious schools and colleges. and got what ever he was going for. And he even had time to study foreign languages. So what is the point in bring the schools that they went to.

Somehow I doubt that Bruce Wayne's training regiment is far more intense than T'Challa's. For one Wayne is able to put down his duties as Batman. He doesn't have to BE Batman. He can hide from his enemies when needed and they'd probably never be the wiser. Unlike T'Challa who's always under the public eye and always has to deal with the conflicts of his kingdom ( which has been taken over on more than one occasion. ) and those outside of his kingdom. He can't stop being the Black Panther. ( Unless he's dethroned ) He's always a target and always has to be ready at a moments notice. Batman can take some down time -- T'Challa can't even if he wanted to.

I was merely listing the proficiency that T'Challa has in the fields of study that he'd gone through ( advanced degrees in physics Ph.D, engineering, economics, political science and psychology. ) He's probably just as if not more technologically savvy than Batman. Yes I know Batman has supplied devices and leading technology to the JL well, T'Challa has done the same for the Avengers.

We could argue about their resources and gadgets all day but when it comes down to it Batman and Black Panther would have to fight hand to hand. They're BOTH skilled fighters with experience in battles that are too numerous to count. The deciding factors would be endurance, strength and speed. They're just about par on every other front except those. Black Panther is STRONGER, FASTER, more AGILE and has more endurance and durability than Batman. That's a fact no one can argue their way out of. He just is. Even Batman would admit it. And when you're facing a foe who's just as adept as you those advantages mean everything. But again in a FAN vote the Caped Crusader would win. He's got a stronger fan base. But matching their skills -- he'd not have a chance.

Batman has more time devoted to dirty work, not politics.

Politics is dirty work! Panther easily trumps him here lol.

There schooling is about equal. Wayne learned foreign languages at Universities, T'Challa grew up learning them as a young prince. He knows a bevy of African tongues (including a proficiency in ancient Egyptian), English, Greek, German (and other Germanic root languages), Latin, Spanish, French (and by extension most likely the other Romance languages) and more are being discovered as the story allows.