The Official Symbiote Thread

Started by Yoshi Fanatic240 pages

Not me.

Originally posted by freezedoom
Look who's talkin'! You guys love a guy who has spider powers and wears a pajama.

Me? I love a person (preferably a woman) with an alien organism that turns them into demonic like entities that have no self control on what they are going to do and have unique talents, but that's just me.

I present to you Venom vs. Carnage issue #4

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Cool but kind of cheesy. Still has some amazing art.
I will remove these links and the other comic links this Friday, because of copyright purposes
So better read up.

BTW this made me laugh really hard. I don't know why.

Originally posted by arcinis
Me? I love a person (preferably a woman) with an alien organism that turns them into demonic like entities that have no self control on what they are going to do and have unique talents, but that's just me.

I present to you Venom vs. Carnage issue #4

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Cool but kind of cheesy. Still has some amazing art.
I will remove these links and the other comic links this Friday, because of copyright purposes
So better read up.

BTW this made me laugh really hard. I don't know why.

awesome...

Originally posted by arcinis
OOOOO another toxin fan =)

Which issue do you need? I am guesing #3? I have all 4 plus Toxin 1-6. They had a pretty good symbiote but the messed up during his own limited series. We will never see him again =[. Do you want me to post 'em here or what???

BTW for those of you wondering I have just about every apperance of the symbiote so if ytou want a pic i will upload it if i am not too lazy. (cept that wolvenom one =[ I am still looking. I sure hope it isn't fake. Fot those of you who are wondering it is not of tooth and claw series or the wolverine vs venom series it is something else.)

okay fill me in.....Why will we never see him again???

Originally posted by Reaper777
okay fill me in.....Why will we never see him again???

Simple if you read the toxin series (which could be found at your local library) you will see that they didn't utilize him well enough and on top of that the villain he fights is an amputee with blades for arms. The story just didn't work well for a symbiote that is twice as strong as carnage or venom. I will elaborate more later too lazy to type it up. That is the gist.

cool, thanx man....

I'd argue the statement about Toxin being twice as strong.😬

Originally posted by arcinis
Simple if you read the toxin series (which could be found at your local library) you will see that they didn't utilize him well enough and on top of that the villain he fights is an amputee with blades for arms. The story just didn't work well for a symbiote that is twice as strong as carnage or venom. I will elaborate more later too lazy to type it up. That is the gist.

hey arcinis, I just checked out the toxin respect thread, and it looks like it could use your help, you should post all of the extra stuff you have on him there.....

Originally posted by Sam Z
I'd argue the statement about Toxin being twice as strong.😬

Well OK I exaggerated he is not TWICE as strong but he is stronger than either of them. BTW for Venom I am using the Mac Gargan one since he is the most current Venom

Venom strength level 5

Carnage strength level 5

Toxin Stregth level 6

hey arcinis, I just checked out the toxin respect thread, and it looks like it could use your help, you should post all of the extra stuff you have on him there.....

Link please?

Originally posted by Wikipedia
Sam Raimi, director of Spider-Man film series, stated in an interview during Spider-Man 3 that he has no interest of seeing Carnage in a live action movie, as he said that about Venom. However, he said that Toxin would make a cameo in future Spider-Man movies, without Carnage

BWAHAHAHA this is why wikipedia PHAILS

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=437652&highlight=toxin+forumid%3A98

there ya go

There isn't much TO post. SO I am not going to. You know there is only so much you can do with a character that has appeared so little.

SHE VENOM ANYONE?!?!? amirite????

I'm not that big of a fan of She-Venom.

She-Venom as she appeared in the comics was pretty dumb... they should've done a whole mini-series with Weying hosting the Venom costume while Brock took a break or something... but they didn't.

In a lot of physical aspects too they failed; you have a female Venom but you make her bald... with humongous bug-looking hands.... riiiighhhtt...

Originally posted by orangepoindexte
She-Venom as she appeared in the comics was pretty dumb... they should've done a whole mini-series with Weying hosting the Venom costume while Brock took a break or something... but they didn't.

In a lot of physical aspects too they failed; you have a female Venom but you make her bald... with humongous bug-looking hands.... riiiighhhtt...

If she had her own comic seires just for a bit. Fanboys would just go crazy like no other. Too bad she killed herself =\

The thing is her hair was short. Heck, Eddie's hair was much longer in that seires than Ann's hair. Plus having claw hands fit a female better. After all women have nice long slender hands. I'd hate to see venom with hair. Just doesn't seem right in my humble opinion.

Originally posted by arcinis
If she had her own comic seires just for a bit. Fanboys would just go crazy like no other. Too bad she killed herself =\

Y'know I agree about the fan-boy comment; there's a crapton more fans of a female Venom then some people fail to realize.

The thing is her hair was short. Heck, Eddie's hair was much longer in that seires than Ann's hair. Plus having claw hands fit a female better. After all women have nice long slender hands. I'd hate to see venom with hair. Just doesn't seem right in my humble opinion.

Right... BUT... if you have the opportunity to make a new character, why not differentiate it from the older long-established one in whatever way you can, ESPECIALLY if it's a female version of something as iconic as Venom?

Your comment about female hands being slender is true and proves my point; they could've made her hands femininely-slenderly-clawed rather then huge and bug-like like Luzniak did.

http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d46/PDexter/Venom/FemaleVenomClawedHandsAndProperlySi.jpg

Hands like that are both sexy and monstrous and work much better then the stupid "lazy" large deformed hands Luzniak and that other artist from Venom: Along Came a Spider gave her.

(Sad thing is Luzniak did everything else about the character pretty much flawlessly; the chest symbol and how he rendered Weying in the costume were great... I even grew to like his super large mouth and fangs over the years).

I just can't get over the big hands and lack of symbiote-endowed hair.

Speaking of hair... it seemed to work pretty spectacularly for Scream/Donna and Leslie/Agony... sexy yet monstrous is the key...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d46/PDexter/Venom/Venom_Girl_Hair.jpg

Think outside the box a bit.

Originally posted by orangepoindexte
Y'know I agree about the fan-boy comment; there's a crapton more fans of a female Venom then some people fail to realize.

Right... BUT... if you have the opportunity to make a new character, why not differentiate it from the older long-established one in whatever way you can, ESPECIALLY if it's a female version of something as iconic as Venom?

Your comment about female hands being slender is true and proves my point; they could've made her hands femininely-slenderly-clawed rather then huge and bug-like like Luzniak did.

http://s32.photobucket.com/albums/d46/PDexter/Venom/FemaleVenomClawedHandsAndProperlySi.jpg

Hands like that are both sexy and monstrous and work much better then the stupid "lazy" large deformed hands Luzniak and that other artist from Venom: Along Came a Spider gave her.

(Sad thing is Luzniak did everything else about the character pretty much flawlessly; the chest symbol and how he rendered Weying in the costume were great... I even grew to like his super large mouth and fangs over the years).

I just can't get over the big hands and lack of symbiote-endowed hair.

Speaking of hair... it seemed to work pretty spectacularly for Scream/Donna and Leslie/Agony... sexy yet monstrous is the key...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d46/PDexter/Venom/Venom_Girl_Hair.jpg

Think outside the box a bit.

Yeah I agree with most of your post except the hair part. Donna and Leslie had long hair Ann doesn't hence we get a bald she venom. Plus the way She venom is it stays with the roots on how venom looks except that she venom has a slender body and female parts.

Let me give you some examples on the hair differences.

Ann has nice short hair.

Leslie and Donna have long hair.

What if she grew it out? Would it still make her look bald in your universe?

What if it had linked with a woman originally and not Spiderman/Brock... would it have endowned a woman with Venomified longer hair? I think so... just like Donna/Leslie.

Originally posted by orangepoindexte
What if she grew it out? Would it still make her look bald in your universe?

What if it had linked with a woman originally and not Spiderman/Brock... would it have endowned a woman with Venomified longer hair? I think so... just like Donna/Leslie.


True most likely the female venom would have long hair but...Those 2 words open up alot of ideas but the fact of the matter is Ann has short hair hell Thor has longer hair (leading up to a later post). That is why we have hairless She-Venom.

I think the length of hair when in "Symbiote mode" is decided upon the host, since the Symbiote matches whatever the host deems necessary. If Ann wanted long hair when in Venom-mode, it'd grow long hair probably. In the short bits she's had the Symbiote in the comics, I doubt she even had a chance to think about the option, since all three times the Symbiote had dominance and she wasn't really thinking/controlling her actions. Thus, is the reason we need more fics of her or like characters, lol.