Superman vs Green Lantern

Originally posted by 753
Yes, modus operandi.

Nah, I think are more limited for not using the ring's potential, not for lacking juice behind attacks that are usually simple and direct anyway.

in what sense? i mean, i know what the term means, just wondering how it applies.

but it's the power behind such attacks. the more will you have, the stronger your shields, the more powerful the energy blasts.

sure you could make some big elaborate construct, but if a simple blast is going to do the job, i just don't see the advantage tbh...

maybe its just me...

Originally posted by -Pr-
in what sense? i mean, i know what the term means, just wondering how it applies.

but it's the power behind such attacks. the more will you have, the stronger your shields, the more powerful the energy blasts.

sure you could make some big elaborate construct, but if a simple blast is going to do the job, i just don't see the advantage tbh...

maybe its just me...

^ Lot of post-classic Ion amped-ring Kyle feats. At that time, he wasn't your typical GL.

^No not really. With the exception of maybe two, or three feats. Kyle didn’t really do anything, that regular Kyle has not done. Thats pre and post classic Ion fiasco.

Superman 8/10.

^ This is the right idea. 👆

Originally posted by "Id"
^No not really. With the exception of maybe two, or three feats. Kyle didn’t really do anything, that regular Kyle has not done. Thats pre and post classic Ion fiasco.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Objection: bullsh1t.

^ Compelling argument.

Trying to conflate Kyle's feats -- especially when he possessed different amps at different periods during his career -- as if they were standard GL feats is an idiotic argument.

^ Cool Story Bro.

Typical onedumbargument. More along the lines of deinflating a comment, suggesting that Kyle feats relay completely on a short period of empowerment. As opposed to what we were shown before, and after the fact.

Superman.

Originally posted by "Id"
^ Cool Story Bro.

Typical onedumbargument. More along the lines of deinflating a comment, suggesting that Kyle feats relay completely on a short period of empowerment. As opposed to what we were shown before, and after the fact.

... making the argument that Kyle isn't special and acting like his feats can be accomplished by run-of-the-mill GLs continues to be an idiotic argument.

This kind of idiotic argument shouldn't be typical, because it's wholly ignorant. But unfortunately for some, it's habitual.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Lot of post-classic Ion amped-ring Kyle feats. At that time, he wasn't your typical GL.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
[b](iv) was revealed to have housed the actual Ion entity since who knows when...[/B]

I doubt he did it before becoming Ion1 (which is also when he absorbed the central battery's power, Ion's old home).

Of course, attracting the universe's manifestation of willpower does speak well of him not being normal.

^ Estimating exactly when the Ion entity bonded with Kyle to be around when Kyle became classic Ion doesn't really make sense.

Kyle absorbed the Hallax energies in the Sun to become classic Ion. And Hallax didn't have the Ion entity within him. Only the Parallax entity. And it doesn't make sense that Ion was sitting around in the Sun the entire time.

Originally posted by 753
But cant the others replicate such feats if they know how to do it? I've seen regular GLs manipulating the physiology of other organisms, phasing through matter and doing more of those feats.

The comic gives a clear time reference as to when Kyle bonded with the Ion entity. At least specific enough to let us know that it happen when Kyle took up the name Ion again.

[list=1]
[*]For reference.

http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/3992/page00024m.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/7355/page00030.jpg
http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/9317/page00031.jpg

[*]The following scan explains when, and why Kyle bonded to the Ion Entity.

“The Energies she returned to you, enabled you to act as a temporary Host”. - Cosmic Midgets

http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6011/pic003u.jpg
[/list]

Originally posted by 753
Cause their most effective attacks aren't bigger and harder hard light contructs, but crippling an organism's metabolism (even altering gene expression), clever use of teleportation, mindraping, screwing with the environment, manipulating forces of matter and cosmic energies, etc. The ring can sidestep and overcome almost any powerset, but they usually resort to simple energy beams or neon dinosaurs.

and the will to carry out such attacks doesn't matter as much as thinking them up in your opinion?

even though hal has come up with some pretty crazy shit in his time, too...

Lol sometimes I don't know whether or not to lol or shake my head and sigh at some of Hal's shenanigans

"Id": As long as you're not suggesting that Kyle hasn't been bonded with the Ion entity before Infinite Crisis, then we're fine. If you are, the dialogue you're pointing out isn't exclusive of Ion never having bonded with Kyle before. Unless there's something I'm missing. Because these particular pieces of dialogue are telling: [list=1]
[*]"Once before, Rayner held such power. He used it well. Indeed, moreover, this time, we are here to monitor him." - same Cosmic Midgets

[*]"We knew you would be equal to the task, just as you were before." - same Cosmic Midgets (again)

[/list=1]
The Guardians' dialogue indicates that Kyle's done this "task" before, and that when he became Ion again in the aftermath of Infinite Crisis, that was the second time he was a host. Whether he (or we) knew it or not. So let's adjust what I said before slightly to add nuance to what is still a correct observation:

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Kyle [b](i) from the very beginning, had a special ring created by Ganthet that wasn't connected to a Central Power Battery, (ii) had the ability to access Hallax's energies for an indeterminate period of time, (iii) actually amped his ring post-classic Ion, and (iv) was revealed to have housed the actual Ion entity at least twice during his career who knows when...

... making the argument that Kyle isn't special and acting like his feats can be accomplished by run-of-the-mill GLs continues to be an idiotic argument.[/B]

The Fuck are you talking about any GL using Kyles feat? Are you reading my comments, are you simply looking to start an argument?

Originally posted by 753
Cause their most effective attacks aren't bigger and harder hard light contructs, but crippling an organism's metabolism (even altering gene expression), clever use of teleportation, mindraping, screwing with the environment, manipulating forces of matter and cosmic energies, etc. The ring can sidestep and overcome almost any powerset, but they usually resort to simple energy beams or neon dinosaurs.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Lot of post-classic Ion amped-ring Kyle feats. At that time, he wasn't your typical GL.

Originally posted by "Id"
^No not really. With the exception of maybe two, or three feats. Kyle didn’t really do anything, that regular Kyle has not done. Thats pre and post classic Ion fiasco.

If you're nonetheless trying to suggest that "regular" Kyle hasn't made use of prodigious plot-device amps throughout his career, my posts still rebut that notion.

So don't get your panties in a bunch.