Superman has never lost to a standard GL in post crisis DCU. He snatched guy's ring (which has happened to all earth lanterns IIRC auto shield be damned. Kyle's ring was taken off panel by majestic and was almost taken by slade in infamous Identity crisis. John's ring was taken by Kara. Hal's ring was recently taken by bruce in DCnU. It's been done by five diffrent characters in diffrent time by diffrent writers so I don't think its PIS anymore). Clark dropped kyle in Day of judgement and in King of the world with a slight amp and kyle couldn't ko him despite being amped in Last laugh when his costruct dumped a whole ring load of energy when kal walked right through it. He oneshotted John in AOS 642 and Geoff johns used a non-existent flaw in his invulnerebility so that John can cheap-shot him out of the way (his eyes being weak than rest of his body makes no sense as his bio-field is uniform and his eyes produce one of the most powerful energy attacks in comics, he should go blind the first time he uses HV) in one of the most plot holes filled comics (Guy's vuldarian DNA, ganthet behng more powerful than the ETERNAL WRATH OF GOD). We might as well consider Freeze Breath as it happened twice. Kilowog couldn't ko him with two rings and a sucker shot, it only stunned him for a bit. Hal came with everything he had on Kal and couldn't even dent him and was being pawned by a kryptonian alongside John only for superman to come and pummel the said kryptonian. In DCnU superman oneshotted hal (albeit a cheap shot). So I think superman 7/10
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ That snatching Guy's ring feat you're referencing is an Elseworlds. I'm sure of it.I don't think anybody's taken Guy's ring, once agan proving his superiority over all other Earth GLs.
^ Apocalypse can (and has) returned from death before. Doesn't matter, people from possible futures can still remain in the mainstream universe.
Cable, Rachel Grey Phoenix, Bishop, Kang, Vance Astro, etc. hanging out in the 616 universe doesn't make their different futures canon to 616. The exact opposite in fact.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ I don't think your concept of canonicity makes a difference here.Superman never snatched Guy Gardner's ring. It hasn't happened, yet.
And really shouldn't, if a writer knows anything at all about GL's.
Like the fact they have tons or pre programmed auto defenses and automatic guidance systems (Sinestro told Hal to let the ring fly him through an asteroid belt, and Jordan decided to do it on his own.)
So any attempt to snatch a ring should be met with Supes bouncing off a shield.
Originally posted by cdtm
And really shouldn't, if a writer knows anything at all about GL's.Like the fact they have tons or pre programmed auto defenses and automatic guidance systems (Sinestro told Hal to let the ring fly him through an asteroid belt, and Jordan decided to do it on his own.)
So any attempt to snatch a ring should be met with Supes bouncing off a shield.
Tell that to Batman 😛