Deadpool vs. Deathstroke

Started by namorsubby33 pages

Apparently not. Because either way Slade "having trouble" with streets will more often than not be mentioned in any thread concerning him, as if its his norm usually. The same way some will bring up fact that hes beaten super teams, tagged flashes and other characters with vast superhuman speed all throughout his history. Discounting his high end and low end leaves his "middle ground", which would be imo beyond elite peak humans. But using the pis argument makes Slade extremely difficult to gauge due to writers being inconsistent with his power level.

Bottom line. It should be recognized as a rule that Slade is one of the kings of the street. If you want to even call him a street leveler. To me he's in that borderline street low end mid tier with the likes of Wolverine.

D!ckstroke loses

But how are we suppose to draw the line then? For example one could say - Slade is fast enough to tag Flash so he's out of DP's league. But hey he's tagged not some common speedster, he's tagged Flash! They guy must be out of Spider-man's league at least. Actually you know what... it's friggin FLASH we're talking about. He. Tagged. Flash! Slade's definitely above Namor, Iron Man and Ms. Marvel.
See what I mean? It's impossible to use that feat as a messure for his speed. We HAVE to assume that Slade is either a match for Flash or Flash jobbed a little.

Originally posted by Vanguard
Bottom line. It should be recognized as a rule that Slade is one of the kings of the street. If you want to even call him a street leveler. To me he's in that borderline street low end mid tier with the likes of Wolverine.
Guys like Spider-man are also considered to be street levelers so calling Slade a king with guys like SpOck running around is a bit generous. Him, Wolverine, Deadpool all belong to the same "crowd".

Originally posted by SamZED

Guys like Spider-man are also considered to be street levelers so calling Slade a king with guys like SpOck running around is a bit generous. Him, Wolverine, Deadpool all belong to the same "crowd".

New 52 Slade overpowers people like Hawkman. So I feel comfortable providing him with the King moniker. Like I've been saying, we'll see how he fares in the Teen Titans issue he'll be featured in coming up.

Originally posted by Vanguard
New 52 Slade overpowers people like Hawkman. So I feel comfortable providing him with the King moniker. Like I've been saying, we'll see how he fares in the Teen Titans issue he'll be featured in coming up.
Deadpool's overpowered Moonstone, overpowered Warpath, kicked down the giant Goliath etc etc. Yet, you wont see me labeling him a class 20+. Don't even get me started on the crazy stuff Wolverine pulls. So Slade's gonna have to do way more and do it more consistently to be concidered a king. At this moment (IMO) SpOck holds the title, he's taking street level to a whole different level.

Deadpool's straight up overpowered Warpath in a contest of strength?

He physically pinned him to the ground.

Originally posted by SamZED
Deadpool's overpowered Moonstone, overpowered Warpath, kicked down the giant Goliath etc etc. Yet, you wont see me labeling him a class 20+. Don't even get me started on the crazy stuff Wolverine pulls. So Slade's gonna have to do way more and do it more consistently to be concidered a king. At this moment (IMO) SpOck holds the title, he's taking street level to a whole different level.

Deadpool doesn't have access to Nth metal either though. Both of the characters I mentioned do.

Originally posted by Vanguard
Deadpool doesn't have access to Nth metal either though. Both of the characters I mentioned do.
Warpath is stronger without any additional amps.

Originally posted by SamZED
Warpath is stronger without any additional amps.

I'd like to see a scan of it. I believe it's probably different than what you explained. Slade physically manhandled Hawkman, I doubt Deadpool did the same. Do you have a scan? I do.

Originally posted by Vanguard
I'd like to see a scan of it. I believe it's probably different than what you explained. Slade physically manhandled Hawkman, I doubt Deadpool did the same. Do you have a scan? I do.

It's not, it's just the way I explained it.
And no need, ive read the fight. Slade used a MA throw to toss HM to the ground which doesn't necessarily require greater strength, just better technique. Cap has thrown Hulk before using a MA throw.

Here's a scan of Deadpool pinning Warpath, and he's stronger than HM.

While im posting links.. here's a link to Deadpool respect thread. You really should read it.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=509173&pagenumber=1

Originally posted by SamZED
It's not, it's just the way I explained it.
And no need, ive read the fight. Slade used a MA throw to toss HM to the ground which doesn't necessarily require greater strength, just better technique. Cap has thrown Hulk before using a MA throw.

Here's a scan of Deadpool pinning Warpath, and he's stronger than HM.

While im posting links.. here's a link to Deadpool respect thread. You really should read it.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=509173&pagenumber=1

Warpath is showing some resistance there too. He's not being totally dominated. Thanks for the link.

Originally posted by Vanguard
Warpath is showing some resistance there too. He's not being totally dominated. Thanks for the link.
Yes, he's struggling but he's pinned.

Np.

Originally posted by SamZED
But how are we suppose to draw the line then? For example one could say - Slade is fast enough to tag Flash so he's out of DP's league. But hey he's tagged not some common speedster, he's tagged Flash! They guy must be out of Spider-man's league at least. Actually you know what... it's friggin FLASH we're talking about. He. Tagged. Flash! Slade's definitely above Namor, Iron Man and Ms. Marvel.
See what I mean? It's impossible to use that feat as a messure for his speed. We HAVE to assume that Slade is either a match for Flash or Flash jobbed a little.

Guys like Spider-man are also considered to be street levelers so calling Slade a king with guys like SpOck running around is a bit generous. Him, Wolverine, Deadpool all belong to the same "crowd".

I don't think admitting that Slade can tag flash is the same as saying he's a match for flash or any where near his speed. It's more like just acknowledging what has happened in his history over and over again. We could toss it out as pis, but his bad showings against street levelers that are not in his league physically and really shouldn't even be able to deal him any damage besides superficial wounds that would immediately heal should be excluded as well.

Originally posted by namorsubby
I don't think admitting that Slade can tag flash is the same as saying he's a match for flash or any where near his speed. It's more like just acknowledging what has happened in his history over and over again. We could toss it out as pis, but his bad showings against street levelers that are not in his league physically and really shouldn't even be able to deal him any damage besides superficial wounds that would immediately heal should be excluded as well.
Despite all that...accepting that Slade can tag FLT characters is still never gonna happen my friend.

Yeah, but I'm sure Slade having trouble with streets will continue to be acceptable. I guess only the whole pis argument only works to Slades detriment around here....

Street level character hitting a FTL character = PIS
Street Level character having trouble with other street level characters = not PIS

When one street leveler has superhuman durability, is superior physically across the board,has a good healing factor, and is also well trained vs a trained human in tights it is.

What can characters like Nightwing, Roy harper, etc logically even do to Slade physically to stop him or even harm him? Its like Logan having trouble with someone like nightwing or Roy.

No, it isn't...at best it's a low showing; an example of PIS would be Superman having trouble with a street level character.