We were talking about kids drinking, NOT supervised either. So, if they asked you if they could you would let them attend the party?yes I would let them attend the party, been in that situation myself and not everyone drank. Some just didnt want to others didnt dare and that was fine by us we never pressured anyone teased them a bit ,but always kept it clear that if they chose to drink it was their choice and shouldnt be because of us.
About the drinking at a party thing...that's called peer pressure, and not everyone gives into it, and what exactly does religion have to do with giving into peer pressure anyway? I'm not Christian, and I've been at parties where people have been drinking, and somehow I managed to not drink...
Being as I don't believe in God...no, I don't really think that God matters. Maybe to some people, but not to me.
Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
[B]Without God, what is the purpose to life, I don't get that. /B]
Quite a few religions in human history have asserted the existence of a creator-god, yet none of them have managed to find much agreement as to what such a creator-god might want from us humans. Even within religions, there is tremendous diversity of opinion as to the desires of the god being worshipped. It seems that if such a god did exist, it probably wouldn' t have done such a poor job as to allow this confusion.
If some sort of creator-god exists, it is highly unlikely that we'll be able to figure out what it wants of us, if anything at all. The scenario which seems to play out is that people project their own hopes and fears onto whatever god they worship. People who fear and hate modernity project that onto their god and, as a result, find a god which wants them to continue in their fear and hatred. Others are open to change and willing to love others regardless of differences, and thus find in a god which is tolerant of change and variation, and wants them to continue as they are.
Although the latter group is more pleasant to spend time with, their position is not actually any better founded than the former. There is no more reason to think that there is a benevolent and loving creator-god than that there is instead a mean-spirited and fearful creator-god. And, in either case, what that god might want from us - if discoverable - cannot automatically give us purpose in our lives.
Meaning and purpose at their heart require valuation, and valuation must begin with the individual. For this reason, they must exist first and foremost in the individual. Others outside of us (including gods) may suggest possible paths for us where meaning and purpose could perhaps develop, but ultimately that will depend upon us.
I have this thought and maybe this is the thread to speak on it:
Is there such thing as someone not beleiving in religion, and ifthere are more of them, wouldnt that be sort of a religion? I think it just contradicts itself, because it's almost as if youre saying that there is a religion for people that dont belive in religion. Weird isnt it?
Not really Placebo fan. I've thought about the same thing myself. I suppose the name you would group those people under would be atheists. Being an atheist is a very general bracket to put anyone into. All it means is a disbelief of a god. Not really anything like a religion because there is no organisation and no rules or guidelines for members to follow. It's really more of a very basic philosophy rather than a religion, because two atheists can have very differing outlooks on everything else regarding life.