Iron man vs Namor

Originally posted by jinzin
was it? it didn't appear so...

It's not.

Wow. This whole thread is taking Namor's low showings and Iron Man's high ones. Ridiculous.

Are we all forgetting that Namor has taken down Abomination, Hulk, and many other top tier characters himself.

He also had Thor and the Silver Surfer on the ropes underwater. 😱

So, yeah. Namor's winning this fight.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
He also had Thor and the Silver Surfer on the ropes underwater.

😬

Were you high when you read that "confrontation" with SS?

I'm still not sure what that thing was, but I think it was some sort of Iron Man armor designed for underwater combat.

I call it "Namorbuster" myself...

And Namor can defenitely put the hurt on SS underwater...until SS pulls out those crazy blasts of his and puts the hurt on himself.
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7703/namorvssurfer19tb.gif
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/567/namorvssurfer22ls.gif
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8900/namorvssurfer39xe.gif

http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvssurfer14qo.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvssurfer29cq.jpg
http://img202.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvssurfer36xl.jpg

As for Iron Man, IMO Namor has never gone completely all-out on him underwater (Completely drowning him into huge-ass whirpool that stops even Hulk from moving and attacking him from all sides).

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
I'm still not sure what that thing was, but I think it was some sort of Iron Man armor designed for underwater combat.

I call it "Namorbuster" myself...

Tony built 5 robots that he could mentally command that could help out in various environments. That one was obviously designed for under-water work... they were all combat capable.

Then some psycho guy managed to mess with Tony's head via an implant that was there since the earliest days of IM and turned those 5 robots loose to destroy stuff.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
And Namor can defenitely put the hurt on SS underwater...until SS pulls out those crazy blasts of his and puts the hurt on himself.
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/7703/namorvssurfer19tb.gif
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/567/namorvssurfer22ls.gif
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8900/namorvssurfer39xe.gif

http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvssurfer14qo.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvssurfer29cq.jpg
http://img202.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namorvssurfer36xl.jpg

Two examples of Namor attacking the Surfer without provocation and not being able to hurt him.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
As for Iron Man, IMO Namor has never gone completely all-out on him underwater (Completely drowning him into huge-ass whirpool that stops even Hulk from moving and attacking him from all sides).

That's exactly what he tried to do to IM in that old fight.... Hulk has no means of self propulsion or heat projection to get out of it like IM does/did though.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Tony built 5 robots that he could mentally command that could help out in various environments. That one was obviously designed for under-water work... they were all combat capable.

Then some psycho guy managed to mess with Tony's head via an implant that was there since the earliest days of IM and turned those 5 robots loose to destroy stuff.

Well, that one "busted" Namor, so Namorbuster is a good name. 😛

Originally posted by Scoobless
Two examples of Namor attacking the Surfer without provocation and not being able to hurt him.

He was defenitely able to hurt him...there is pain on Surfer's face after each blow. He's just not able to hurt him enough.

Originally posted by Scoobless
That's exactly what he tried to do to IM in that old fight.... Hulk has no means of self propulsion or heat projection to get out of it like IM does/did though.

That whirlpool was a tiny one compared to Namor's best ones. Didn't look like Namor was putting much effort on it...and only reason why IM was able to press advantage was because Namor was surprised, even states that in the scan. And even with "last particle of his vaning power" he still broke Iron Man's hold.

Doubt that Iron Man would manage as well in this...
http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/1919/namorspeedfeat631fn.gif

Anyway, don't get me wrong, Extremis Iron Man would win majority.

IM is on par with Namor in almost every category except maybe agility. ... however he is faster than Namor.

Strength- Namor by a ton or two, not much

Speed - IM

Agility- Namor

Stamina- not sure, but probably IM unless there in water

Durability- =

Intelligence- IM

Energy Projection- IM and this is where he really has a huge advantage. He can do so many things to Namor that make it hard for Namor to overcome.

Well, Iron Man has intelligence edge only in tech, Namor is far better strategist and fighter.

I wouldn't say he is a far better strategist that IM... although he is a much better fighter. What i mean by intelligence is the knowledge he has over his armor and how to use it, which is an incredible advantage.

Well, he has been leader of an entire army for 70 years as compared to Iron Man's 15 or so years in Avengers...I'd say that puts Namor quite high in strategy scale, being veteran of thousands of battles and all.

I'M sorry i meant to say he isnt a far better fighter, although he is a much better strategist. My fault 😮

Iron Man right now has better reaction times. I don't think he has a better speed feat than Namor. Also, Namor is a better fighter/strategist and is also stronger, considering that he's probably closer to guys in the range of Abomination/Hulk/Nefaria.

If we take all Namor's speed feats into consideration, IM's reaction times aren't THAT better (Though I admit he is faster).

His flight speed isn't that much better, though. Both can hit escape velocity speed with quite an ease.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
It's not.

Wow. This whole thread is taking Namor's low showings and Iron Man's high ones. Ridiculous.

Are we all forgetting that Namor has taken down Abomination, Hulk, and many other top tier characters himself.

He also had Thor and the Silver Surfer on the ropes underwater. 😱

So, yeah. Namor's winning this fight.

First of all, I'd like to see some scans backing up what you're saying. I've never seen Namor "on the ropes" with Silver Surfer, and the only conflict I saw with Hulk was the two of them speeding at each other underwater, hitting into each other, which sends them both hurtling backwards. Hardly a fight.

Additionally, ABC logic isn't all that reliable. You don't see someone say, "Rhino has beaten Spider-Man, and Spider-Man has beaten Firelord, so Rhino > Firelord," do you?

On top of all that, Iron Man is way too versatile for Namor to handle. All he really needs to do is trap Namor in a magnetic field and pound him with some repulsor rays.

Iron Man wins.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
If we take all Namor's speed feats into consideration, IM's reaction times aren't THAT better (Though I admit he is faster).

His flight speed isn't that much better, though. Both can hit escape velocity speed with quite an ease.

I was not aware that Namor could hit escape velocity... I was under the impression that he could reach speeds of mach 3 or so, but not escape veolocity. I'm sure you would know... Has this been shown on panel?

Originally posted by H. S. 6
First of all, I'd like to see some scans backing up what you're saying. I've never seen Namor "on the ropes" with Silver Surfer, and the only conflict I saw with Hulk was the two of them speeding at each other underwater, hitting into each other, which sends them both hurtling backwards. Hardly a fight.

Avengers #3, Namor beats Hulk
Tales to Astonish 100 Namor keeps Hulk at bay
Incredible Hulk v2 #118 Namor beats Hulk

I could go on 😄

Originally posted by H. S. 6
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Additionally, ABC logic isn't all that reliable. You don't see someone say, "Rhino has beaten Spider-Man, and Spider-Man has beaten Firelord, so Rhino > Firelord," do you?

Originally posted by H. S. 6

On top of all that, Iron Man is way too versatile for Namor to handle.

Originally posted by H. S. 6

All he really needs to do is trap Namor in a magnetic field and pound him with some repulsor rays.

Originally posted by H. S. 6

Iron Man wins.

Maybe, but he's not getting the majority.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Avengers #3, Namor beats Hulk
Tales to Astonish 100 Namor keeps Hulk at bay
Incredible Hulk v2 #118 Namor beats Hulk

I could go on 😄

I'm aware of the fact, but you missed the point of that statement completely. I'm saying that Namor is getting downplayed because of a few low showings. People tend to forget his higher ones

I bet people said the same thing about Thor 😱

Ask Magneto about how well those fields work against Namor

Maybe, but he's not getting the majority.

Honestly, without scans, I can't judge those fights, so I'll take your word for it.

Namor breaking free from Magneto's magnetic fields sounds incredibly iffy. And barring that, I have a hard time seeing Namor breaking through Iron Man's when even the Hulk couldn't (and this was a long time ago, before Tony's many upgrades).

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
It's not.

Originally posted by H. S. 6
He wasn't. He said some words to Namor, but it was Namor who started the fight, and Iron Man flew straight into the ocean (CIS at the very least).

Originally posted by Scoobless
Yeah ... since when does the second or third smartest super hero on the planet think it's a good idea to try to avoid Namor by going underwater?

That was dumb.

Can somebody post the whole ordeal?

BTW Namor can fly at 7 miles per second?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Can somebody post the whole ordeal?

BTW Namor can fly at 7 miles per second?

Yes because he has a secret technique he uses similar to his hand speeds in crafting art, he just flaps them as fast as he can sculpt! Sheesh!

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
If we take all Namor's speed feats into consideration, IM's reaction times aren't THAT better (Though I admit he is faster).

His flight speed isn't that much better, though. Both can hit escape velocity speed with quite an ease.

what has IM done to prove that his reaction times, reflexes, and fighting speeds are better than namors?

from what I've seen (though admittedly this would be in his old versions of armor) every time iron man's even got into it with quick street levels, they seem to edge him out in overall speed.

But I would say that Iron man's flight speed is times better than namor's, in new avengers he yanked sentry away from the collective and booked as over the earth's horizon line like he was superman, pretty impressive feat of flight speed in my mind.

In any case, i would assume that namor's overall power combined with his fighting speed, reflexes, experience, and superior fighting ability would put iron man on edge... unless iron man can use his suit in an innovative way, I don't see him dropping namor on average.

I'd like to see what his repulsors would do against namor CONSISTENTLY though, that's the only x factor that I'm teatering on.