Iron man vs Namor

Started by xmarksthespot7 pages

Originally posted by H. S. 6
That's debatable, though. He had time to fire off repulsor blasts, but not to alter his trajectory and fly upwards? 🙄
He's depicted as being punched into the water. 😬

Static images generally do not really give indication of the velocity of objects or people.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
He's depicted as being punched into the water. 😬

Static images generally do not really give indication of the velocity of objects or people.

Actually, if you look closer at the art, Namor was taking the battle into the water. Tony just made the stupid mistake of staing there. 😱

Originally posted by jinzin
didn't help him much against those hand ninjas either..

Spidey's reaction time is arguably quicker than IM's, but as Scoobless stated earlier, his encounter against those hand ninjas was pre-extremis.

And his extremis reaction time was quick enough to actually kill Crimson Dynamo.

Wouldn't this attack hurt Namor? That's if he could get it off on Namor.

http://img453.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img014xm9.jpg

And BTW who has the better speed feats? In flight.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Wouldn't this attack hurt Namor? That's if he could get it off on Namor.

http://img453.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img014xm9.jpg

And BTW who has the better speed feats? In flight.

It would hurt him, but he couldn't pull it off.

Also, the better flight feats go to Namor by a hair.

is this iron man pre extremis?

Originally posted by Darth Vegas
Spidey's reaction time is arguably quicker than IM's, but as Scoobless stated earlier, his encounter against those hand ninjas was pre-extremis.

And his extremis reaction time was quick enough to actually kill Crimson Dynamo.

Being punched by Spider-Man doesn't really provide inference on Spider-Man's reaction speeds nor is it dependent upon them. Spider-Man initializes the attack, whether or not it connects is predominantly dependent on Iron Man's movement time (i.e. speed0 and reaction time combined relative to Spider-Man's movement time (i.e. speed).

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
It would hurt him, but he couldn't pull it off.

Also, the better flight feats go to Namor by a hair.

Do Namors feats say how fast he is going exactly? Or can they be considered hyperbole?

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
When I say fraction, I mean an extremely small one. As in .0002 of a second.

Originally posted by Howard_Jones
Scoobless probably has the scan. I'm still looking for a place to get the series cheap.

The Crimson Dynamo fight?

01. http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img008nq5.jpg
02. http://img374.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img009gg4.jpg
03. http://img453.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img010ac6.jpg
04. http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img011lv2.jpg
05. http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img012wp8.jpg
06. http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img013eo1.jpg
07. http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img014ft8.jpg
08. http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img015ts2.jpg
09. http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img016hu5.jpg
10. http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img017rj9.jpg

The third scan is the one that I think you were talking about.... I just posted the others for the hell of it.

🙂

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Being punched by Spider-Man doesn't really provide inference on Spider-Man's reaction speeds nor is it dependent upon them. Spider-Man initializes the attack, whether or not it connects is predominantly dependent on Iron Man's movement time (i.e. speed0 and reaction time combined relative to Spider-Man's movement time (i.e. speed).

I stated that Spidey's reaction time is arguably quicker than Iron Man's.

Where did I state that Iron Man not being able to dodge some of Spidey's punches is indicative of Spidey's reaction speeds?

Originally posted by Darth Vegas
I stated that Spidey's reaction time is arguably quicker than Iron Man's.

Where did I state that Iron Man not being able to dodge some of Spidey's punches is indicative of Spidey's reaction speeds?

I'd say that Spider-Man is still the faster of the two.

(spoilers for Amazing Spider-Man #536 & Civil War #5 coming up)

http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=civilwar5008uc5.jpg
http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=civilwar5009ix1.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazingspiderman536004ut5.jpg
http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazingspiderman536005al2.jpg
http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazingspiderman536006eo9.jpg

Originally posted by Scoobless
I'd say that Spider-Man is still the faster of the two.

(spoilers for Amazing Spider-Man #536 & Civil War #5 coming up)

http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=civilwar5008uc5.jpg
http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=civilwar5009ix1.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazingspiderman536004ut5.jpg
http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazingspiderman536005al2.jpg
http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazingspiderman536006eo9.jpg

Very nice scans.

But find it hard to believe that the webbing would dampen/block out the armor's sensors. And I don't think it was the punch that did it, because IM's been hit square in the face numerous times and his targeting/tracking system never went completely offline like that.

Probably a combination of both

Originally posted by Scoobless
The Crimson Dynamo fight?

01. http://img294.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img008nq5.jpg
02. http://img374.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img009gg4.jpg
03. http://img453.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img010ac6.jpg
04. http://img457.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img011lv2.jpg
05. http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img012wp8.jpg
06. http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img013eo1.jpg
07. http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img014ft8.jpg
08. http://img490.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img015ts2.jpg
09. http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img016hu5.jpg
10. http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img017rj9.jpg

The third scan is the one that I think you were talking about.... I just posted the others for the hell of it.

🙂

That was it. Damn good fight.

Originally posted by Scoobless
I'd say that Spider-Man is still the faster of the two.

(spoilers for Amazing Spider-Man #536 & Civil War #5 coming up)

http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=civilwar5008uc5.jpg
http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=civilwar5009ix1.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazingspiderman536004ut5.jpg
http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazingspiderman536005al2.jpg
http://img363.imageshack.us/my.php?image=amazingspiderman536006eo9.jpg

Two things I noticed. First, in the scan when Iron Man is gloating about his safegaurds that he implanted in Spidey, he seems to be readjusting his helmet/calming his rattled head. Which leads me to believe Spidey hurt him with that punch.

Second. After Spidey webs his face and double-fist hammers Tony, you can CLEARLY see chunks of his armor breaking off from the blow. Spider-Man is stronger than we previously believed. It's entirely possible that he dislodged or caused the sensory apparatus to malfunction.

Originally posted by Scoobless
I'd say that Spider-Man is still the faster of the two.
Now what would that imply with regard to Namor?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Two things I noticed. First, in the scan when Iron Man is gloating about his safegaurds that he implanted in Spidey, he seems to be readjusting his helmet/calming his rattled head. Which leads me to believe Spidey hurt him with that punch.

Second. After Spidey webs his face and double-fist hammers Tony, you can CLEARLY see chunks of his armor breaking off from the blow. Spider-Man is stronger than we previously believed. It's entirely possible that he dislodged or caused the sensory apparatus to malfunction.

Chucks of Iron Man's armor breaking off from Spidey's punch...

Now I sure we all know that shouldn't be possible but isn't it boggling how Iron Man appears to be using different armors in these two events that should be taking place within moments of each other?

I'm sure the artist used an "artistic licence" when it came to drawing Iron Man getting it. It was just used to add a dramatic effect to the punch.

Originally posted by Evangel94
I'm sure the artist used an "artistic licence" when it came to drawing Iron Man getting it. It was just used to add a dramatic effect to the punch.

And "artistic continuity" additionally

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Two things I noticed. First, in the scan when Iron Man is gloating about his safegaurds that he implanted in Spidey, he seems to be readjusting his helmet/calming his rattled head. Which leads me to believe Spidey hurt him with that punch.

Second. After Spidey webs his face and double-fist hammers Tony, you can CLEARLY see chunks of his armor breaking off from the blow. Spider-Man is stronger than we previously believed. It's entirely possible that he dislodged or caused the sensory apparatus to malfunction.

Well, he was supposed to get an upgrade on everything after The Other, which everyone seems to have forgotten. 😐

Also, Iron Man has stated numerous times that Spider-Man is strong enough to break the grip of the armor, and what he did to Titanium Man earlier in the series as well.