What will be left of Anakin/Vader after The Duel?

nope not turning over a new leaf. still same.

Originally posted by Cipher
Vader has some bionic parts there, like his arm, but he looks mostly organic.
He's not going to be just a machine. Even if those pics are acurate, Lucas can (and will) make any changes he wants.......

well, on those grounds there is no point in even discussing this.
and the pics are more than accurate, they are screen caps from the film.

Originally posted by darktim1
nope not turning over a new leaf. still same.

same man....just altered...now you are darktim1+punctuation marks

I'm just saying Vader has ribs...... Not imitation rib-like things. I just don't feel that Lucas would have the main character of the saga be a machine, unless its R2 and 3PO. Vader isn't going to be the exact same as Grievous.
If the General is a proto-Vader, wouldn't they have figured out how to preserve more?

but its not about preservation.
the force can sustain life, but not ressurect it.
they save what is still alive, and toss what is dead.
charred flesh is dead, at least in the real world.
however, GL has a habit of bending reality, so that will remain to be seen.

and if i am correct on this, vader is still NOT a machine, he is a man.
as i asked before, where is the line drawn between machine and man?
at the thigh and upper arm? just below the wasteline? below the neck?
i think no matter how bad vader ends up, so long as he has a human brain
which thinks and feels he is a man.

Barely. But Lucas has said he loses both legs and an arm, and from what I've heard, Anakin doesn't actually fall in the lava. He stops his fall with is bionic arm and is burned by the intense heat, slowly burning, that would make anyone's mind snap. If he hit the lava, he'd be gone completely.....

I don't think we'll see just a brain.....

Most of you have probably seen this but for those who havnt... The Injuries of Darth Vader - http://www.theforce.net/swtc/injuries.html

After reading this, I relize why Vader is so irritable. And so quick to bite people heads off. He really has had a rough go of it 🙂

oh, i know we wont see just a brain,
i was just philosophising on the whole matter of
vader being a man or machine.

now, if you want to get scientific, regardless of what anakin's
arm was made of, he would have been vaporized by a lava,
regardless of what hits it first. he would just go *poof*

but...this is star wars....so we shall see

Originally posted by Cowboyography
After reading this, I relize why Vader is so irritable. And so quick to bite people heads off. He really has had a rough go of it 🙂

its really a sad read isnt it? poor vader 🙁

I can't believe anyone had the free time to write all that......

Looking at those pictures again, I think the mechanical parts are the parts holding the fake skeleton together. In 1982, Lucas didn't count on a group of nerds at Force.net going to the extreme that Trek fans are known for....

doubt that. lucas is a man who demands detail in every last frame.
that was not just some crappy model...go check the images at the site

ive seen realistic skeletons in old stop-motion flicks,
i doubt that it was beyond lucas' budget to make a realistic skeleton.

Knowing Lucas he'll change those shots in the DVD to make them fit with ROTS. So.... the DVD release may be very interesting.

MAY be !?!?!? i am counting the days with much anticipation.
finally i can view each and every frame in all their glory!!!! 😱

If he does go all the way into the lava pit, do you think he will put his thumb up like arnie at the end of T2?

Originally posted by PVS

ok, i'll see that "1/2 arm" and raise you a "no arm" 😆

LOL...Ill take that bet.

Do we all agree that Vader was breathing on his own at the end of ROTJ? If so I think that you must say that he has a torso. Im pretty sure that besides taking off the helmet the rest of the suit no longer worked after it was electrocuted.

see, thats what i dont understand.
an iron lung means his lungs are dead.
so how was he able to speak...
the force?

i guess when in doubt there is always the force.

An iron lung? Don't think he'd be walking around with one of those......

He has a respirator of some sort, and those pics on that site were never meant to be examined that closely. As for Lucas demanding detail, again, he probably never envisioned a bunch of geeks wasting their time with that.
Those hinges don't stand out when watching the film: I've seen it enough times.....
It didn't need to be realistic to look good in that scene.

Amen.

I agree that Lucas never meant for Vader's "electrocutionary skeleton" to be so closely analyzed. Anyway, has anyone even considered that it was done primarily by Richard Marquand (The guy who actually directed ROTJ. He didn't just sit there while Lucas barked orders y'know.)?